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([190.177.216.167]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 4sm2558003yxj.7.2008.11.20.13.23.00 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 20 Nov 2008 13:23:01 -0800 (PST) To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Content-Disposition: inline From: Gonzalo Nemmi Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 19:22:58 -0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200811201922.58163.gnemmi@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Add a Splash Screen Section to the Handbook? X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 21:23:03 -0000 On Thursday 20 November 2008 12:26:38 pm Manolis Kiagias wrote: > Gabor PALI wrote: > > Dear members, > > > > > > A few days ago we received a generous contribution from Joseph J. > > Barbish on using splash screens in FreeBSD [1]. Initially, it started > > as a fix for the FAQ, but after I suggested Joe to insert the > > descriptive part of his work into the Handbook, he offered an entire > > section for referencing from the FAQ. > > > > He recommended to put this section into Chapter 3 ("UNIX Basics"), but I > > would like to receive some comments on this before I start to integrate > > it into that chapter. (Do you think it is needed, if yes, it is a good > > place for that and so on.) Of course, after it has been moved to the > > Handbook, it would shorten the corresponding FAQ entry to contain only > > the necessary references and to avoid unnecessary duplication of the > > content. > > > > > > Thank you for your comments in advance. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > :g > > > > [1] > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-doc/2008-November/014989.html > > I followed the discussion and I think this is useful info that should be > part of the documentation. The submitted text looks ok more or less (and > I am quite sure you will it touch it up anyway ;) ). I am more concerned > about the placement of this info though. > Supposedly the first part of the Handbook is more or less introductory > and designed to teach fundamental UNIX concepts. Granted, this rule is > violated a few times, some parts are way more advanced and refer to > later sections. However I believe we should keep chapter 3 focused on > exactly the title: UNIX basics. Imagine yourself being a beginner and > trying to find some useful info on basic UNIX commands. Would you rather > find the discussion of a splash screen useful? I doubt it. What's more, > you would not be able to fully understand what is going on. > There is another possible section for this info: Chapter 12 (boot). If > you come to think about it, the splash screen is more related to booting > than actual system operation (the "basics"). In fact there is a section > on loader.conf in chapter 12 and I think this info could be adjusted to > fit the chapter nicely. First: Thanks Joseph and Gabor for your work. Now, and for what is worth, I've been following the thread too and 1) Yes .. I think it's Joseph's work should be available on the Handbook. 2) I agree with Manolis for the same reasons he exposed. Even if Chapter 3 is a good enough place to insert this info, Chapter 12 seems to be an even better one. > There are could also be other places, but this is the only that comes to > mind at the moment. One could also argue we need something of a "Misc > settings" chapter, where all this useful but maybe hard to categorize > stuff would go. But then again, this maybe the role of the FAQ. > > By the way, the above is just a suggestion, if the general consensus is > to merge it into the Basics chapter, I won't object :) > > manolis@ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-doc@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-doc > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-doc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Once again, thank you Joseph and Gabor for your work .. and just in case, a friend and I have fooled around with splash screen and boot splash a not so long time ago .. in case you are interested (discussion is in spanish but C code is not =P ): http://www.penguinpower.com.ar/foro/viewtopic.php?t=2494 http://www.penguinpower.com.ar/foro/viewtopic.php?t=2493 Regards -- Blessings Gonzalo Nemmi