From owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Sat Jan 26 02:45:44 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B986A14AC7A2 for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2019 02:45:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from deischen@freebsd.org) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5255D888BF for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2019 02:45:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from deischen@freebsd.org) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 1064B14AC79E; Sat, 26 Jan 2019 02:45:44 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: arch@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2E3214AC79D for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2019 02:45:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from deischen@freebsd.org) Received: from mail.netplex.net (mail.netplex.net [204.213.176.9]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.netplex.net", Issuer "RapidSSL RSA CA 2018" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 99023888BC; Sat, 26 Jan 2019 02:45:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from deischen@freebsd.org) Received: from [10.0.0.54] (ip-414b102e.ct.fixed.ntplx.com [65.75.16.46]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.netplex.net (8.15.1/8.15.1/NETPLEX) with ESMTPSA id x0Q2jelt061939 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Fri, 25 Jan 2019 21:45:41 -0500 X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS and Clam AntiVirus (mail.netplex.net) X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (mail.netplex.net [204.213.176.9]); Fri, 25 Jan 2019 21:45:41 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: Importing mksh in base From: Daniel Eischen X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (16D40) In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2019 21:45:40 -0500 Cc: Bruce Evans , arch@freebsd.org, Baptiste Daroussin , Gleb Popov Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <09787468-8771-4CF7-9A8B-649E6E52B03F@freebsd.org> References: <20190125165751.kpcjjncmf7j7maxd@ivaldir.net> <20190126064128.Y872@besplex.bde.org> To: Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz> X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 99023888BC X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.99 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.992,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2019 02:45:44 -0000 > On Jan 25, 2019, at 6:46 PM, Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz> wrote: >=20 > Daniel Eischen wrote on 2019/01/25 21:15: >>> On Jan 25, 2019, at 2:53 PM, Bruce Evans wrote: >>>=20 >>> I have used /bin/bash as the root shell for more about 20 years. The >>> currently install version is slightly newer -- only about 15 years old >>> (bash-1.14.7(1) installed by mv'ing it from /usr/local/bin where some >>> port put it. >> Just picking a recent post to reply to... >> I've used bash on FreeBSD as the default shell for many years, ever since= it became a port. But I don't change root's shell, because I don't want it= pointing off to /usr/local. If there were a base bash-like shell, I'd use i= t so long as it had tab completion and up/down arrow for history recall. >=20 > You must be joking. tcsh has tab completion and up / down arrow history re= call ... and in my feelings much better than in bash. But it all depends on h= ow you configured it (bash and tcsh can be heavily modified by their rc file= s). I didn't say that tcsh didn't have it, just that I'd want mksh to have it. A= lso, we mostly standardize on bash for network (ldap, active directory) acco= unts, so it would be nice to have a default shell that was more like bash. -- DE=