From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 3 07:33:28 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46F0916A417 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 07:33:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from mailout.zetnet.co.uk (mailout.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.47.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7C4B13C447 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 07:33:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.47.48] helo=zetnet.co.uk) by mailout.zetnet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JLZLv-0006j9-Mp; Sun, 03 Feb 2008 07:33:23 +0000 Received: from melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (54-144.adsl.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.54.144]) by zetnet.co.uk (8.14.1/8.14.1/Debian-9) with ESMTP id m137XMkm014470; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 07:33:23 GMT Received: by melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 99768FCAC11; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 07:33:17 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 07:33:17 +0000 From: Frank Shute To: Giorgos Keramidas Message-ID: <20080203073317.GA64281@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Giorgos Keramidas , freebsd-chat@freeBSD.org References: <200802012123.m11LNV3s061230@lurza.secnetix.de> <20080201225214.GA57322@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> <863asaopbz.fsf@ds4.des.no> <20080203010151.GA62332@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> <20080203041304.GA5298@kobe.laptop> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080203041304.GA5298@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE i386 X-Organisation: 'Esperance Linux' X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (zetnet.co.uk [194.247.46.1]); Sun, 03 Feb 2008 07:33:23 +0000 (GMT) Cc: freebsd-chat@freeBSD.org Subject: Re: why is it called /boot/beastie.4th ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 07:33:28 -0000 On Sun, Feb 03, 2008 at 06:13:05AM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > > On 2008-02-03 01:01, Frank Shute wrote: > >On Sun, Feb 03, 2008 at 01:28:48AM +0100, Dag-Erling Smrgrav wrote: > >>Frank Shute writes: > >>> Should be done by default IMO. Used to be until the religious maniacs > >>> started going on about devil worship and other such nonsense. > >> > >> No, it was removed because it was butt-ugly. ASCII art stopped being > >> cool twenty years ago. > > > > And the ascii Freebsd that it was replaced with is beautiful?! And > > cool?!! > > > > I like the ascii beastie and you've got no taste ;) > > > > If it were put to a vote, the beast would win by a country mile amongst > > those users with taste! > > Taste... it's always 'taste' in a way or another. > > Since there *is* an option, which interested people can tweak to their > heart's desire, and the source *IS* *OPEN* for anyone to modify on their > own if the option is not enough, can we drop the ad hominem's and move > on with actually *hacking* FreeBSD to make it better? I thought chat@ was the place to hang out when you'd had enough of "hacking"? As for taste, it's due to a lack of taste that we're now lumbered with a sex toy as a logo. If people put half the thought into matters of taste and decency that they do to hacking, the project would be in better shape. Let's remind ourselves that some twit (now *that's* an ad hominem!) actually bothered to write a patch to get rid of beastie from the boot loader in the first place. Why not the option to have the text *instead* of the beast to keep the religious fundamentalists happy? No, that would be too sensible. Keep the text as a monument to somebody's stupidity and a project gone awry....and the bloody sex toy. -- Frank Contact info: http://www.esperance-linux.co.uk/misc/contact.html