From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 2 15:32:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFD4E106564A for ; Sat, 2 Aug 2008 15:32:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+YN=336cba11@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-03.mxes.net (mxout-03.mxes.net [216.86.168.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D1348FC16 for ; Sat, 2 Aug 2008 15:32:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+YN=336cba11@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com. (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB58423E49B for ; Sat, 2 Aug 2008 11:32:55 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 16:32:53 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080802163253.12a47b6a@gumby.homeunix.com.> In-Reply-To: <200808021550.48302.marshc187@gmail.com> References: <200808021550.48302.marshc187@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: gemeral questions (noobish) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2008 15:32:57 -0000 On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 15:50:48 +0200 mcassar wrote: > firstly - i have installed kde3 and xfce4 from packages (like most of > it -> xorg,etc) and have tried updates before with different results. > i don't mind messing things up, as long as i can somehow surf or > check mails - but would like to do a *proper* update. > > firstly, are [freebsd-update] and [cvsup stable src.all] necessary > before installing anything from ports? freebsd-update does a binary update to the base system, csup of src-all is for fetching source to rebuild the base system. You can build ports and base independently BTW you should be using csup (in the base system), not cvsup. cvsup was written in modulo2, csup is a rewrite in C with fewer dependencies Also if you are new to FreeBSD, you should probably not be using a stable branch, these are stable development branches. Consider using a security branch like RELENG_7_0, and later moving to RELENG_7_1 and so on. > and are ports considered > stable or current? or are they automatically matched to the installed > version? There's only one version of ports, the builds automatically adapt to your basesystem version. > also, do portsnap and cvsup ports do the same thing? i've tried cvsup > exactly after portsnap and it still seems to edit/update the ports > tree. They're more or less the same. portsnap is faster, but it's for ports only and is less flexible. > why i'm confused is that i get alot of warnings when many ports try > to build, and many hiccups in apps once they are installed, and i > don't know which way to go --- gcc manual and fixing my environment, > build options, etc,, or if it still something in the actual ports? You don't need to set much, if anything. Read the entries in /usr/ports/UPDATING before doing an upgrade. Most build problems will fix themselves within a day or two if you resync the ports tree.