From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Sat Dec 16 19:49:58 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87C89E8CC9B for ; Sat, 16 Dec 2017 19:49:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-rwg@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net) Received: from pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net (br1.CN84in.dnsmgr.net [69.59.192.140]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 67AC5703A1 for ; Sat, 16 Dec 2017 19:49:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-rwg@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net) Received: from pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id vBGJnqeg008333; Sat, 16 Dec 2017 11:49:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd-rwg@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net) Received: (from freebsd-rwg@localhost) by pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id vBGJnnMR008332; Sat, 16 Dec 2017 11:49:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd-rwg) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <201712161949.vBGJnnMR008332@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> Subject: Re: Objections to converting bsd-family-tree to a dot file In-Reply-To: To: Eitan Adler Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2017 11:49:49 -0800 (PST) CC: Lyndon Nerenberg , FreeBSD Hackers , tech-misc@netbsd.org, Kernel@dragonflybsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL121h (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 16 Dec 2017 20:22:39 +0000 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2017 19:49:58 -0000 > On 15 December 2017 at 08:43, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: > >> I'd like to turn this into into a dot file > > Sounds like a reasonable idea. With care, the source (text) file(s) can > > often be formatted in a way that's at least semi-readable. I assume this > > would ship with pregenerated images (PDF, SVG) so people don't have to > > install the port to render the graph? > > > The overall consensus seems to be: so long as there is a reasonable > way to view this file in plaintext without requiring a tool in base, > its fine. I'll likely run with that after ironing out the conversion > bit. I have seen no presentation of a reasonable way to view the graph in plain text. Nor do I find the output you presented as a sample very usable due to scaling issues, one of the graphs was massively wide, the other was ok but at such a scale had to be zoomed significantly to read. Though they are "pretty" I find them cumbersumb to use. And that means they wont be used. -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@freebsd.org