From owner-freebsd-arch Tue Nov 28 23:52: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from homer.softweyr.com (bsdconspiracy.net [208.187.122.220]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 139D337B401; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 23:52:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=softweyr.com ident=Fools trust ident!) by homer.softweyr.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14124g-0000QL-00; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 00:54:42 -0700 Message-ID: <3A24B642.34B50961@softweyr.com> Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 00:54:42 -0700 From: Wes Peters Organization: Softweyr LLC X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matt Dillon Cc: Kris Kennaway , Jordan Hubbard , arch@FreeBSD.ORG, rps@merlin.mat.uc.pt Subject: Re: Rui Pedro Mendes Salgueiro: erase2 patch (was: 4.2-RELEASE ISO image for x86 updated.) References: <52694.975362925@winston.osd.bsdi.com> <20001127144809.A67395@citusc17.usc.edu> <200011272307.eARN7Ln34886@earth.backplane.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Matt Dillon wrote: > > :> I just received this today and am kind of scratching my head over it. > :> On one hand, creating an "alias" for a one specific piece of terminal > :> character mapping seems a hack; I can see the idea behind wanting to > :> use one of n characters for something like backspacing or line-killing > :> (^U or ^X for example) and would not frown (as much) on a more general > :> aliasing feature. On the other hand, I can see that this specific > :> case (erase) is by far the most significant. Which is why I'm > :> forwarding this to arch - this is one of those classic > :> architecture/feature trade-off decisions and I would like to hear more > :> opinions before deciding which way I'd like to respond to this. > : > :This is a very common newbie problem ("Stupid FreeBSD won't let me > :delete what I've typed, it just prints ^H!"). Commit please! :) > : > :Kris > > This is one of those things where, 10 years ago, I would probably > have been a purist and been opposed to it. > > But after 15+ years of pure hell having to deal with every > conceivable combination of ^H and ^?, terminal types, > telnet, rlogin, ssh, and so on and so forth... I say to > hell with the purist view on this one. I'd love to > see this committed! IMHO, this is one of the biggest arguments for using bash. I get bitten all the time when I leave bash for another interactive program that no longer provides BS/DEL compatibility. Fixing it everywhere is a good idea. -- "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?" Wes Peters Softweyr LLC wes@softweyr.com http://softweyr.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message