From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 3 18:17: 1 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from roc-66-66-72-6.rochester.rr.com (roc-66-66-72-6.rochester.rr.com [66.66.72.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A31037B41B for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2002 18:16:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by roc-66-66-72-6.rochester.rr.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A46DE901A00; Wed, 3 Apr 2002 21:15:32 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2002 21:15:32 -0500 From: mpd To: Peter Leftwich Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: XF86 4.2.0 "xf86cfg" command, one day at a time :( Message-ID: <20020403211532.B70658@rochester.rr.com> References: <20020403200100.A70658@rochester.rr.com> <20020403202433.C68910-100000@earl-grey.cloud9.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20020403202433.C68910-100000@earl-grey.cloud9.net>; from Hostmaster@Video2Video.Com on Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 08:31:12PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 08:31:12PM -0500, Peter Leftwich wrote: > On Wed, 3 Apr 2002, mpd wrote: > > > > > [1] Why is this logfile necessarily 690 lines?! and > > > > Because 690 lines was necessary to convey the information. > > > Very disconcerting. (Six hundred ninety times over.) > > I disagree, a LOT. > > If dmesg knows so much -- which it undeniably does -- why is there no > XFree86, or plain X binary command, that works "out-of-the-box?!" The vga server should work out of the box, I think. > In some > ways, FreeBSD is really lacking for a "Control Panel" type command that > would "ping" your PnP monitor, videocard, mouse, audio, etc and so on and > so forth. >:-( This is a good idea. It would take a lot of work to keep it updated, though. There may even be existing software which implements some of this. > > > > I downloaded a bunch of *.tgz files then ran the command `sh Xinstall.sh` originally. > > Yes, those are binary packages. > > > It would take me a century to figure out how to `make install` from scratch, but that might be favorable as I'd end up with one built on FreeBSD 4.5-RELEASE *and* one that listened to /etc/make.conf where it says i686. :) > > Have you tried the port? It works fine. > > How might I try the port? Is this a portupgrade -R thing or a pkg_add -r thing? Get rid of whatever X cruft you have in your system now, and portinstall XFree86-4 (if you already have the portupgrade port installed.) The ports system is well documented in the handbook. > Should I just go to www.xfree86.org and wallow in my pity? > > > > It really annoys me that the manpage for "xf86cfg" admits: > > > "BUGS > > > Probably." > > > How mature and user-friendly. It may as well have lines following this saying: > > > "EASE-OF-INSTALLATION-FOR-A-MODERATELY-INTELLIGENT-INSTALLER > > > Superbly difficult. Find a grain of salt on a beach then check back here." > > Frankly, I think this tool is garbage. Not one time has it ever configured X for me correctly (20+ attempts at different times.) I've always used xf86config, which works fine. > > I think they should make two tools, the capitalized one "XF86CFG" would run > in a GUI and the "xf86cfg" one would run in a text-only menu similar to > xf86config which I just ran and was failed once again miserably... There are two tools. Remember, these are volunteer efforts, and I'm sure any contributions of code or documentation would be gladly accepted. > > > The sysmouse device should already exist. If it doesn't, MAKEDEV it. > > I have tried both editing the XF86Config.new file and `ln -s /dev/sysmouse > /dev/mouse` but am failing on both accounts, seemingly? Don't symlink it. MAKEDEV the device if it doesn't exist. /dev/sysmouse has special meaning in that it uses whatever mouse the mouse daemon is configured to use. > > > > What are my chances at get this working TO- DAY- ??!!! :( > > Trust me, it's not as hard as it looks from the outside. Don't try to eat it all at once. Take small bites. > > mike > > I have taken small bites since Feb 9th or 16th, it's been so long I can't > recall! Being X-less is really not fun, and having to go to the local > library to graphically browse the web using WinBloze equally sux. Like I said, the mouse problem was the only real error I saw in that log you posted. There's the DRI issue, but that isn't a fatal error. If you're *really* wanting to see if X will start without fixing the mouse error, do a startx -- -allowMouseOpenFail. It won't be very useful without the rodent, though (a few window managers aside, of course.) > > > "MR NUTTY SAID EATING RICE VERMICELLI WILL MAKE YOUR GARDEN GROW!!!" > > - Little Girl from "WHAT WILL MAKE YOUR GARDEN GROW" > > Who is this Little Girl anyway? :) http://www.yellow5.com/pokey > > -- > Peter Leftwich mike -- ___________________________________________________________ "GOOD DAY POKEY! YOU ARE RIGHT! 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