From owner-freebsd-security Wed Aug 12 13:20:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA03987 for freebsd-security-outgoing; Wed, 12 Aug 1998 13:20:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from anne.crossfields.com (anne.crossfields.com [205.241.85.170]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA03894 for ; Wed, 12 Aug 1998 13:19:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pparri@crossfields.com) Received: from [207.43.27.33] (dial3.brazoria.tgn.net [207.43.27.33]) by anne.crossfields.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA02830; Wed, 12 Aug 1998 15:30:27 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199808122030.PAA02830@anne.crossfields.com> Subject: Re: UDP port 31337 Date: Wed, 12 Aug 98 15:23:18 -0500 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Pat Parrinello To: "Brett Glass" , "Marius Bendiksen" cc: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >If no one was listening, it wouldn't be a problem. > >Only an attacker who INTENDED to invade your systems would be subject to >crashes due to the response. And would deserve it. Brett, :) Think again. I do not think you are wanting security as much as revenge. Listen again to Marcus here... He makes the best sense of all. >>In any case, as I said, it's principally wrong to escalate a conflict by >>retaliation. Besides which, it's illegal too. >>--- >>Marius Bendiksen, IT-Trainee, ScanCall AS >> The reason I posted on this subject at all was to inject a little reality, albeit in a humor mode which I take it some here are in no mood for, but alas I will pass once my advice and for what it's worth... you can take it or leave it. Security is observing and taking action. That action should be defensive not offensive. Hold your friends close, but hold your enemies even closer. Know, don't guess the reaction to an action. Use common sense, it has been tried and tested for over 10,000 years and found reliable. Test. One good test is worth a thousand expert opinions. Strength is in silence. | Mathological | | | | | ~Pat~ / / | | /|\ / | / | | |/ | |\ \ | | | | | | | ? | |\|\ | | | | |\|\|\|\ | | | | |\ | | | | | | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe security" in the body of the message