From owner-freebsd-current Sun Dec 10 13:26:51 2000 From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 10 13:26:45 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from ns.yogotech.com (ns.yogotech.com [206.127.123.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20E1837B400 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 13:26:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from nomad.yogotech.com (nomad.yogotech.com [206.127.123.131]) by ns.yogotech.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA03276; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 14:26:44 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate@nomad.yogotech.com) Received: (from nate@localhost) by nomad.yogotech.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA04903; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 14:26:43 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate) From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14899.62738.768609.598990@nomad.yogotech.com> Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 14:26:42 -0700 (MST) To: Mike Meyer Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: /usr/local abuse In-Reply-To: <14899.49294.958909.82912@guru.mired.org> References: <14898.33404.356173.963351@guru.mired.org> <14898.31393.228926.763711@guru.mired.org> <200012100904.CAA27546@harmony.village.org> <3A336781.94E1646@newsguy.com> <14899.41809.754369.259894@guru.mired.org> <200012101557.KAA29588@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> <14899.43958.622675.847234@guru.mired.org> <20001210120840.C38697@vger.bsdhome.com> <14899.47196.795281.662619@zircon.seattle.wa.us> <14899.49294.958909.82912@guru.mired.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: nate@yogotech.com (Nate Williams) Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Then again, your quoting of "packages" points up something else - I > never saw prepackaged binaries for v6 or v7. I did on SysIII. As a matter of fact, the entire distribution was bundled into separate packets (all of them installed in /usr). :( > Or BSD, for that matter. I never encounterd a package system until > Solaris. That would make /opt a tradition as old as packages. Not true. There were package systems before 'Solaris', however Solaris's package utility was much more powerful (annoying?) than previous attempts. One could argue that cpio is a 'package' utility, but shar is probably the first 'package' utility that was used for releases. In any case, I think you're wasting your time trying to convince folks here. It appears to me that this is an argument going nowhere, and the claims you're making of history and tradition are way off the mark, thus making the arguments have much less weight. Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message