From owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Thu Oct 4 14:43:46 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F31510AD28B for ; Thu, 4 Oct 2018 14:43:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: from mail-it1-x12e.google.com (mail-it1-x12e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::12e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 63DA571EBC for ; Thu, 4 Oct 2018 14:43:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: by mail-it1-x12e.google.com with SMTP id l191-v6so13429777ita.4 for ; Thu, 04 Oct 2018 07:43:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=mSYsp+MPBtH1sN6OJmBg072JbNMsaRf5Beq+czvHypk=; b=ZBEO2NPYh/v1rzdKzuHejRB8k5+Ijmf7/pmNPfFnQVFfdJ0Duy9YC88iIpn/SctkOe z8s1CpvFycrm66y2Ewy4JHH6X1BU2AV1bXO5u6Oxm1ihyQXDzOlYm8RCBpVrvSfAwQzS +L1NQveWIx5pJCXYrN6ctGi9AgOWg4WYN4q+J0j2lXrlkopNOg2yd+63Wcuux/wWAEb7 PLSTzHMFlLx5zcs5pYfciIDh9gXKkZ7vGgcHLZtD8rsCBjDqCDdZOD8iDuhZeuqLS4Ny ntQe/jZe+F96/uqUB9w0gvAKuvyXpjSiwDnDYUXBPAnzjrMCUHKU+Hb/uP3EcZVXEyu2 qSeA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=mSYsp+MPBtH1sN6OJmBg072JbNMsaRf5Beq+czvHypk=; b=MKwB3OY+Lw9Rva/c6IMtgXJkoytdNpEmjPAAZGWMLx/48IUStGWRIc5p04HPnrgYoR 9p5NXZbQ+FTWtojXQuheDx3Zm62D8wWv4oBN9C1EP1ff1z9F5kNpLEmk0nbBdXEOtu1A 9JVOmam2V3JfWskU2XmRIWw0F/STwqE+Je6oOSuIbF6rF7OdpQVEXn7jdb+QC4cXqxnx TSwgnw07gazHkLEXKtb/3kT6BgQnSXUpL2Gy16XtAVzokqISqvhkRITprSRyna4fB6Dm 3PBlhZAC5trhdFBR1jZd3WmuLzDtJYdvZjFRO1YT5XGMSt1Mehz2iVwGW9kgmq5Uk8K3 7yBg== X-Gm-Message-State: ABuFfojRMH4IS9vCqxKaNa2KXCPINQl09P3EnURRgb6YJcnEwl9EFKHY 0dZo8rjIntjvi5axZpqCrizQi0o0vnk7aid4+xH6Og== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACcGV63dyT9JCR5N2bY1kW5S8iBZXUw3ujeb8lY6FkIB/7qZkioiIT9k/RW6lAfiJ5Almsu8IDcO4OPa3FFFZQqUp8I= X-Received: by 2002:a24:1c94:: with SMTP id c142-v6mr5269918itc.75.1538664224668; Thu, 04 Oct 2018 07:43:44 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20181003210516.GA71565@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net> <20181004084411.GA50348@FreeBSD.org> <20181004142644.GA17270@lonesome.com> <20181004144011.GA70537@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20181004144011.GA70537@FreeBSD.org> From: Warner Losh Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2018 08:43:33 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FCP-0101: Deprecating most 10/100 Ethernet drivers To: Alexey Dokuchaev Cc: Mark Linimon , freebsd-fcp@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Net , FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List , "freebsd-arch@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.27 X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2018 14:43:46 -0000 On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 8:40 AM Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: > On Thu, Oct 04, 2018 at 02:26:44PM +0000, Mark Linimon wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 04, 2018 at 08:44:11AM +0000, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: > > > OK I guess I can understand removing 10 (I personally haven't seen > > > one in a very long time) but 100 are omnipresent and most of my NICs > > > are in fact 100. > > > > Sigh. If you really plan to still be using i386 and 10/100 ether in > > 2024, perhaps you should consider NetBSD. > > I don't quite understand why are you grouping 10/100 vs. 1000 rather than > 10 vs. 100/1000. > As far as I know, none of the drivers listed could do 1Gbps. They were all specifically 10Mbps or 10/100Mbps. Support for 10Mbps or 100Mbps isn't being removed from the tree: there's still dozens of GigE drivers that can do those speeds that have PCI or better bus attachments. Warner