Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2022 19:06:40 +0200 From: "Dave Cottlehuber" <dch@FreeBSD.org> To: Dewayne <dewayne.geraghty@heuristicsystems.com.au> Cc: erlang@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: heads up - BEAM ports purge in PR263694 Message-ID: <a6cd7fdd-34c4-4f0e-b6ce-c3f456f6a301@www.fastmail.com> In-Reply-To: <ec2f7761-fc07-fbdc-c0ff-8e1b242fba74@heuristicsystems.com.au> References: <b5286f8d-937f-4941-9e0a-305e303d8d7d@www.fastmail.com> <ee919aa6-ed28-74aa-a434-1086bc27115c@heuristicsystems.com.au> <ec2f7761-fc07-fbdc-c0ff-8e1b242fba74@heuristicsystems.com.au>
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On Wed, 15 Jun 2022, at 02:14, Dewayne wrote: >> If you have any ports you'd like to keep, please let me know here: >> >> https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D263694 > > Dave, > I started this email asking how will a newbie to FreeBSD and Erlang > discover applications that are known to work on FreeBSD, and what the > "mix tools" were, that you'd mentioned. Thanks for the reply Dewayne! Bearing in mind that I'm an erlang user now for ~ 12 years, well before rebar* and elixir came along, is it even possible to reach for erlang these days and *not* run into rebar3? I=E2=80=99m in too deep to know. Would somebody who installs lang/rust need to be told what cargo is? Should the OS package manager tell rubyists about gem & bundler? I've not run into anybody *not* using rebar & mix in more than 8 years. Don't get me wrong, it's totally legit, just rather uncommon :-) We could add something similar to lang/ruby: https://cgit.freebsd.org/ports/tree/lang/ruby32/pkg-message > I do use > erlang-epgsql 4.1.0 -> 4.6.0 > erlang-gen_smtp 0.1.3 -> 1.2.0 *** > erlang-jobs 0.7.2 -> 0.10.0 > erlang-lager_syslog 3.0.3 -> 3.1.1 > erlang-cowboy 1.1.2 -> 2.9.0 *** NB the above versions are extracted from: https://portscout.freebsd.org/erlang@freebsd.org.html Other than cowboy & gen_smtp, these are trivial version bumps from the user's perspective. You can expect significant changes when switching to cowboy 2.x though and ranch will change for gen_smtp as well as cowboy. Can you clarify a bit more how you use them? Off-list is fine. If this is a common use case we should accommodate it, but if it's special snowflake territory then I'd prefer I spend 30m helping you get started on rebar, or working together on updating these ports, than an ongoing maintenance burden in ports just for the sake of it. <hint> In general its no problem to keep these & maintain them - if somebody is using and willing to test them. I'd be more open to keeping them onboard if there were willing contributors. </hint> > Perhaps we could reference these two sites as part of an Erlang > installation message or in the long description to assist those new to > the ports system, and provide some guidance? that is a good idea, I will do it alongside these changes. A+ Dave =E2=80=94 O for a muse of fire, that would ascend the brightest heaven of inventio= n!
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