From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Tue Sep 1 19:30:37 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C0AA9C86EF for ; Tue, 1 Sep 2015 19:30:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carpeddiem@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ig0-x22f.google.com (mail-ig0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c05::22f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C682AA2; Tue, 1 Sep 2015 19:30:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carpeddiem@gmail.com) Received: by igcrk20 with SMTP id rk20so9113914igc.1; Tue, 01 Sep 2015 12:30:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=lzwUfD66glWJxmBKpdtTtHTM3WP6fHh6M3beI/HPp6Q=; b=y4ITWjL3kE1Npn9h2ugD2hk9LfXs8u+MK5lIW942kZAxCeaF4V+r/lidNbgGodjIcw VSfe0252jVv0nAw9szMOFTl9Xo1aP98MPBlR09JlClElw54wCisRKA0kc/Wvcm+l3EoF kql22hIkbXCdYyur1pEPrPnK7fwMHSXvnYAEvGK4rT/a1mvtUwYWI6LvF7wihcKwM7Wu N9NQl56dTDJFAqgdQ8QmYjC42sRmMJ9Be5sHyurdCwXq/HAZgWFlZw6oRSI1kvMq2wi0 A3XkIVc29fD1BCJr/wzA0oawNVMN4cV7o1kbcXWu9u9Fyos/TgoVNnN8X5EX7i7Rt5XP 2vPQ== X-Received: by 10.50.114.193 with SMTP id ji1mr3792243igb.97.1441135836255; Tue, 01 Sep 2015 12:30:36 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: carpeddiem@gmail.com Received: by 10.107.166.17 with HTTP; Tue, 1 Sep 2015 12:30:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20150901190148.GQ33167@funkthat.com> References: <20150806233328.47a02594@FreeBSD.org> <55CB5428.2090505@room52.net> <55D96E24.9060106@FreeBSD.org> <20150826233616.GU33167@funkthat.com> <55DEBA8B.5060009@FreeBSD.org> <20150827180945.GW33167@funkthat.com> <55DF713D.7000808@FreeBSD.org> <20150901182406.GN33167@funkthat.com> <20150901184439.GW2072@kib.kiev.ua> <20150901190148.GQ33167@funkthat.com> From: Ed Maste Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2015 15:30:16 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: q2fWj96KxhHin9Ev2XqJ4GCi73o Message-ID: Subject: Re: Instant panic while trying run ports-mgmt/poudriere To: John-Mark Gurney Cc: Konstantin Belousov , Andriy Gapon , FreeBSD Current Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Sep 2015 19:30:37 -0000 On 1 September 2015 at 15:01, John-Mark Gurney wrote: > > But I would ask you to respect my maintainership of the code... Just > because you get paid to work on FreeBSD full time does not mean you > get to run roughshod over other people's work and force them to work > on your time frame... Other people have jobs, and families and > responsiblities too... A quick comment on this point, on behalf of the FreeBSD Foundation (and not core): working for the Foundation as either permanent staff or on a project grant conveys no special status with respect to making changes in FreeBSD. Staff and project developers are expected to abide by the same rules and social conventions when interacting with the FreeBSD community. That said, the discussion and diagnosis of this issue has been ongoing for about ten days, and avg provided a detailed sequence of events five days ago. In this case the patch fixed a panic that several people were experiencing, was tested by several people who experienced the panic, and received review. In my opinion r287366 was handled in a fair and reasonable fashion.