From owner-cvs-all Mon Jul 12 17:55:36 1999 Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71FD3152CB; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 17:55:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA02816; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 17:46:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199907130046.RAA02816@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Jeremy Lea Cc: Amancio Hasty , "Jordan K. Hubbard" , Warner Losh , Peter Wemm , cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: ports/devel/linux-devel - Imported sources In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 12 Jul 1999 00:59:14 +0200." <19990712005914.A61574@shale.csir.co.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 17:46:43 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > My own feeling on these sorts of comments which have been flying around > recently is that it is not a problem with the core team being too > conservative (or however people might put it), but that they are not > being conservative enough. It is a problem of people being given commit > privileges without earning them. As one of the people that has been reading their FreeBSD mail, and proposing these people as committers, I don't think this is the case. We need to take on people as they become available, and we need to make judgements based on their existing work to date. There is no "FreeBSD committer boot camp" (nor will there ever be), so these folks have to learn on the job. I'm not quite sure why the established committers are reacting so poorly these days to quite trivial blunders by new arrivals, nor how they rationalise these reactions in the light of the major stuffups that we've all committed over the years. I'm hoping that as we pick up the pace a little again that some tolerance will re-emerge. Whatever happens, we need to continue to improve our ability to accept new developers and help them along the learning curve. The alternative is stagnation and ultimate decay. -- \\ The mind's the standard \\ Mike Smith \\ of the man. \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ -- Joseph Merrick \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message