From owner-svn-src-all@freebsd.org Wed Jun 6 19:18:14 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-all@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31FC7FDF639; Wed, 6 Jun 2018 19:18:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cy.schubert@cschubert.com) Received: from smtp-out-no.shaw.ca (smtp-out-no.shaw.ca [64.59.134.13]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "Client", Issuer "CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 575D8830A1; Wed, 6 Jun 2018 19:18:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cy.schubert@cschubert.com) Received: from spqr.komquats.com ([70.67.125.17]) by shaw.ca with ESMTPA id QdwXfpoW0uYopQdwYfUWOk; Wed, 06 Jun 2018 13:18:06 -0600 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=GopsBH9C c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=VFtTW3WuZNDh6VkGe7fA3g==:117 a=VFtTW3WuZNDh6VkGe7fA3g==:17 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=7mUfYlMuFuIA:10 a=pwxSU7ffAAAA:8 a=YxBL1-UpAAAA:8 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=YjCoiEArSPlB2yaFbwoA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=fPZJm5J38vnTTye--D-X:22 a=Ia-lj3WSrqcvXOmTRaiG:22 a=IjZwj45LgO3ly-622nXo:22 Received: from slippy.cwsent.com (slippy8 [10.2.2.6]) by spqr.komquats.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BAB2355A; Wed, 6 Jun 2018 12:18:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from slippy.cwsent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by slippy.cwsent.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id w56JI0sK045205; Wed, 6 Jun 2018 12:18:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com) Received: from slippy (cy@localhost) by slippy.cwsent.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id w56JI0kk045200; Wed, 6 Jun 2018 12:18:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com) Message-Id: <201806061918.w56JI0kk045200@slippy.cwsent.com> X-Authentication-Warning: slippy.cwsent.com: cy owned process doing -bs X-Mailer: exmh version 2.8.0 04/21/2012 with nmh-1.7.1 Reply-to: Cy Schubert From: Cy Schubert X-os: FreeBSD X-Sender: cy@cwsent.com X-URL: http://www.cschubert.com/ To: Brad Davis cc: Konstantin Belousov , Eugene Grosbein , Alexander Leidinger , rgrimes@freebsd.org, Kyle Evans , "src-committers" , svn-src-all@freebsd.org, svn-src-head@freebsd.org Subject: Re: svn commit: r334617 - in head: . etc In-Reply-To: Message from Brad Davis of "Tue, 05 Jun 2018 14:44:49 -0600." <1528231489.2440725.1397620864.5987B9ED@webmail.messagingengine.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2018 12:18:00 -0700 X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfOVWSbuP+aH4KJGjNyRNhEFCB+Vv57cCTOGBbS2qGbMoYYbiRR7jA4agjwkeGL+XzIKOAVihS8YF+vDgjMqpDSuTzYAvvb14/Wc1QO70Cw1eKDTwyki+ lzlTgI3SXa7Z9oQG6FSmOtZrHKIxTNIqj77nt3Ejad4kL4oj/x/0H0Blq2SiMyeHc634817mS3uDsQnnp56DzTpinUQSKabNCKFNtBmVdjDO6RHmfhmDp1lv llAqzZ/DpmDqNRmZp8kRkLcbHfAwe6WFFKeCiDYPUaw1hsKVUR3fer10RJN+fgirt+VsPw3Ih++MUBqKOMmfvZc7GALyLVIxKlAJ2sWleXUUYNahe5GhiNMk i69rjkODxSszNfiiM+wnW+dqGCA8+OG8Zk1/L91n+8z70t1jF14oaK8lyksxDA7/elgfkWk589TfDS0UaxCKqg+dr9RS62g15tkjn8V/NFtDevI25RYcPKpX WbMLr5qCgmVsqzDe X-BeenThere: svn-src-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: "SVN commit messages for the entire src tree \(except for " user" and " projects" \)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2018 19:18:14 -0000 In message <1528231489.2440725.1397620864.5987B9ED@webmail.messagingengi ne.com> , Brad Davis writes: > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > --_----------=_152823148924407253 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > On Tue, Jun 5, 2018, at 1:28 PM, Konstantin Belousov wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 06, 2018 at 01:39:00AM +0700, Eugene Grosbein wrote: > > > 06.06.2018 1:26, Konstantin Belousov wrote: > > > > > > >>> I find it often very useful to do > > > >>> (cd src/etc/rc.d && make install) > > > >>> Same for defaults and several other directories which in fact > > > >>> contains> > >>> non-editable content. Is this planned to keep workin > g ? > > > >> > > > >> The short answer is, no. All rc.d scripts get moved to the src > > > >> of the program they start.> > >> > > > >> That said, if there is a big need for this, we can see about > > > >> options to keep them working.> > >> > > > >> What are you trying to accomplish when you do this? Just verify > > > >> the rc.d scripts match your src tree?> > > > > > > I avoid mergemaster/etcupdate and whatever else. rc.d and /etc/rc,> > > > /etc/rc.subr /etc/rc.network are not suitable to etc, they are > > > > binaries> > > provided by the project not for the user editing. > > > > > > > > When upgrading the host, esp. on HEAD, i usually refresh scripts > > > > by this> > > procedure and avoid any editing and implied conflict resol > ution > > > > for real> > > configs. > > > > > > > > Not being able to easily install clean copies of these scripts > > > > would> > > be very inconvenient and time consuming. > > > > > > I found that "mergemaster -iFUP" deals with unchanged files > > > including mentioned rc* scripts just fine.> > That is, it automatically r > efreshes unchanged files without any > > > silly questions just for change of $FreeBSD$.> > > No, you missed the point. Whatever nice is the handling of > > unchanged files,> use of mergemaster forces me to handle changed files, whi > ch is exactly> what I do not want/need to do. Yes, I update crashboxes very > > often, and> I want to get all new code, including the startup scripts, when > > I update. > The startup scripts will be installed as part of installworld. Shouldn't this be worked out in a phab review first? -- Cheers, Cy Schubert FreeBSD UNIX: Web: http://www.FreeBSD.org The need of the many outweighs the greed of the few.