From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 11 00:36:12 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1CA016A4D0 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2004 00:36:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from internet.potentialtech.com (h-66-167-251-6.phlapafg.covad.net [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A306B43D46 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2004 00:36:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from working.potentialtech.com (pa-plum1c-102.pit.adelphia.net [24.53.179.102]) by internet.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E5EF69A87; Thu, 10 Jun 2004 20:36:07 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 20:36:06 -0400 From: Bill Moran To: Lucas Holt Message-Id: <20040610203606.3435810e.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <0CB15F7C-BB3B-11D8-BCC3-000A95EFF4CA@foolishgames.com> References: <200406101935.i5AJZAwG085244@adsl-68-76-19-75.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net> <40C8BB39.3000007@mac.com> <20040610193518.5eef2a01.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <0CB15F7C-BB3B-11D8-BCC3-000A95EFF4CA@foolishgames.com> Organization: Potential Technologies X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.10 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.9) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Frontpage and jails and possible alternatives X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 00:36:13 -0000 Lucas Holt wrote: > > I would second this. > > > > At least I know the core OS is secure and stable. The only thing I > > need to > > worry about is the Frontpage extension itself. Customers are > > customers ... > > they want what they want, and if I don't give it to them, they'll take > > their > > money elsewhere. > > I just remember working at a hosting company a few years back. I > didn't administer the linux servers, but I recall the linux admin had a > great deal of trouble with unix frontpage extensions and getting them > upgraded periodically. He often sat on stale software because it was a > pain. I don't believe any operating system is more secure than > another. It all depends who is setting them up. My former boss was > very lax about security and his linux systems were often rooted. My NT > servers were never rooted as i took proper security precautions and > patched regularly. People can get in through services more often than > exploiting OS vulnerabilities. of course anyone can get rooted, I was > just rather lucky. >From the way you're talking, it doesn't sound like luck, it sounds like you were smart. I agree with the general statement ... that any OS can be secure if properly adminned. I just find that it's much, much more work to properly admin a MS system than FreeBSD! Find me anything similar to portaudit in the Windows world. The tools in FreeBSD a just plain better. -- Bill Moran Potential Technologies http://www.potentialtech.com