From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Sep 21 11:48:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA04823 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 11:48:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sasami.jurai.net (sasami.jurai.net [207.153.65.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA04762 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 11:48:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from winter@jurai.net) Received: from localhost (winter@localhost) by sasami.jurai.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA26506; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 14:47:23 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 14:47:23 -0400 (EDT) From: "Matthew N. Dodd" To: ark@eltex.ru cc: oppermann@pipeline.ch, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, ipfilter@postbox.anu.edu.au Subject: Re: Packet/traffic shapper ? In-Reply-To: <199809211126.PAA00225@paranoid.eltex.spb.ru> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 21 Sep 1998 ark@eltex.ru wrote: > Ok, it patches _all_ network interface drivers instead of working with > ip-level modules.. I definitely _do_not_want_ a thing like this to be > in my kernel.. It must suck not wanting BPF in your kernel. :) I'm not sure how you live with yourself. Any sort of intrusive features like ALTQ will require intrusive code to implement them. How else would you suggest this sort of thing be handled? (Hint, dummynet appears to require device driver modification to work.) > Andre Oppermann said : > > > ALTQ is damn ugly. I'd prefer to see something like dummynet interacting > > > > Please be a little bit more specific with "ALTQ is damn ugly". -- | Matthew N. Dodd |This space | '78 Datsun 280Z | FreeBSD/NetBSD/Sprite/VMS | | winter@jurai.net |is for rent| '84 Volvo 245DL | ix86,sparc,m68k,pmax,vax | | http://www.jurai.net/~winter | Are you k-rad elite enough for my webpage? | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message