From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 22 08:01:07 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 40A55202 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2014 08:01:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail50c50.megamailservers.eu (mail50c50.megamailservers.eu [91.136.10.60]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F6C5750 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2014 08:01:05 +0000 (UTC) X-Authenticated-User: ralf.mardorf.alice-dsl.net Received: from f050020188.adsl.alicedsl.de (f050020188.adsl.alicedsl.de [78.50.20.188]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail50c50.megamailservers.eu (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id s9M7aeZU018659 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2014 07:36:42 +0000 Message-ID: <1413963400.13198.27.camel@alice-dsl.net> Subject: Re: Keep using syscons -- how? From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2014 09:36:40 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20141022072744.9a7574eb.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20141022072744.9a7574eb.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.12.7 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-CTCH-RefID: str=0001.0A0B0206.54475E8B.00AF, ss=1, re=0.000, recu=0.000, reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 X-CTCH-VOD: Unknown X-CTCH-Spam: Unknown X-CTCH-Score: 0.000 X-CTCH-Rules: C_4847, X-CTCH-Flags: 0 X-CTCH-ScoreCust: 0.000 X-CSC: 0 X-CHA: v=2.1 cv=JaaF8y6V c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=bBjsBLFio4dpdeP//XKDQw==:117 a=bBjsBLFio4dpdeP//XKDQw==:17 a=ALKwz0t7uJUA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=rsIYsMhsAAAA:8 a=9ZeSqDLwRBOp2k75H9wA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 X-Origin-Country: DE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2014 08:01:07 -0000 On Wed, 2014-10-22 at 07:27 +0200, Polytropon wrote: > On Wed, 22 Oct 2014 04:25:12 -0500 (CDT), Lars Eighner wrote: > > The command line is already useless in every Linux distribution I can find. I'm just lurking, since I'm a Linux user interested in alternatives to Linux. The command line is important for every Linux distro, just a few distros have a tendency to do some steps into the wrong direction [1], but if you want to do the PC what you want it to do, you can and should use the command line what ever Linux distro you're using. > Some Linux distributions (usually "the more professional > ones") allow easy access to the command line within X AFAIK Ctrl + Alt + Fx does work with even the oddest DE, at least with all sane WMs on Linux, but I can't see something bad when using a sane GUI terminal emulation such as roxterm. Btw. I prefer Arch Linux, it has got similarities to FreeBSD. Perhaps "KISS principle" could replace "the more professional ones". Regards, Ralf [1] There's just one exception that is really annoying, but it's possible to get used to it, systemd. Sure, crap as dconf is idiotic, but I suspect FreeBSD suffers from such odd designs too.