From owner-freebsd-sparc Tue Oct 24 15:58:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Received: from mail04.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail04.syd.optusnet.com.au [203.2.75.107]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEF9A37B479 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 15:58:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bender (adlax2-214.dialup.optusnet.com.au [198.142.52.214]) by mail04.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA04968; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 09:54:40 +1100 Message-ID: <029901c03e0d$6bb058b0$0200000a@lan.diskiller.net> From: "Martin Minkus" To: "Gerald Heinig" Cc: References: <054F7DAA9E54D311AD090008C74CE9BD01766CC4@exchange.panasonicfa.com> Subject: Re: Anyone out there ? Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 08:24:45 +0930 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I subscribed to this list a few days ago, and after hearing nothing but crickets (and the occasional NT server reboot far off in the distance) i thought it was time to shake the stick, and see what response i can get ;) Seems good so far :-) I have a Sun IPX, and Sun SparcServer 10 (both of which i picked up for free recently). Okay. I believe the website (http://people.freebsd.org/~obrien/freebsd-sparc/) shows there was a bias to simply develop for PCI based Ultra's (Sparc64 port?), which i definately have no access to. (Unless i can steal one from my university ;-) It appears there are several people with the older 32bit Sparcs on this list, but they don't have any coding experience. I do, but only in userspace, though i've been slowly trying to make my move up into the kernel :) It appears there would have to be two seperate ports, FreeBSD/sparc, and FreeBSD/sparc64, but only differing in the kernel, the userspace would be the same? This appears to be what Linux (I just read the UltraLinux website) have done, and so has Net and OpenBSD. I have little experience with the sparc architecture, so i'm unaware of the differences (between Sparc and Sparc64), but if the two are vastly different, we'll have two maintain two seperate porting efforts... (OpenBSD has done this, but the Sparc64 port has lagged and/or is dead) The linux kernel also seems to do some funky shit like binary patch itself on boot ... :/ PROMLIB: Sun Boot Prom Version 3 Revision 2 Linux version 2.2.14-5.0 (root@lisa.devel.redhat.com) (gcc version egcs-2.91.66 19990314/Linux (egcs-1.1.2 release)) #1 Tue Mar 7 20 :54:26 EST 2000 ARCH: SUN4M TYPE: Sun4m SparcStation10/20 Ethernet address: 8:0:20:1d:c7:d7 Boot time fixup v1.6. 4/Mar/98 Jakub Jelinek (jj@ultra.linux.cz). Patching kernel for srmmu[TI Viking]/iommu [0]: v[f0000000,f1000000](1000000) p[00000000] [1]: v[f4000000,f5000000](1000000) p[04000000] [2]: v[f8000000,f9000000](1000000) p[08000000] [3]: v[fc000000,fcf5e000](f5e000) p[0c000000] SRMMU: Compact physical memory. Using strightforward VA<->PA translations. Found CPU 0 Found 1 CPU prom device tree node(s). Power off control detected. Console: colour dummy device 80x25 Calibrating delay loop... 39.94 BogoMIPS Memory: 60892k available (1180k kernel code, 2692k data, 124k init) [f0000000,fd000000] ... and so on. In any case, for myself, i'm probably just going to continue learning about kernel space, and meddling with the Sparc kernel code in Net/OpenBSD and eventually see what i can do about FreeBSD porting. I won't be able to help with Sparc64 at all i don't believe. martin. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Zaitsau, Andrei" To: Cc: ; Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2000 2:42 AM Subject: RE: Anyone out there ? > I have SPARCstation IPC, Hell Yeah, it would be nice to run FreeBSD, instead > of OpenBSD. However, same story, I have no programming skills :) > But I would like to see this project moving. > Andrei. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rick Hamell [mailto:hamellr@heorot.1nova.com] > Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 4:25 AM > To: Martin Minkus > Cc: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Anyone out there ? > > > > > I've got an old SparcServer 10 sitting around, and after trying > > OpenBSD and Linux on it, i'm very interested in the possibility of > > porting my favourite OS to it. > > Woo Hoo! > > > It also seems the FreeBSD/Sparc port is quite dead ? :( > > Well... waiting for someone to head it up... We're short on talent > right now... :( I personally only have an IPX and a couple of Sparc > 1+... and no programming skills... :) > > Rick > > ******************************************************************* > Rick's FreeBSD Web page http://heorot.1nova.com/freebsd > Ace Logan's Hardware Guide http://www.shatteredcrystal.net/hardware > ***FreeBSD - The Power to Serve! http://www.freebsd.org > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message