From owner-svn-src-all@freebsd.org Sat Oct 21 22:45:19 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-all@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44B47E3BDE6 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2017 22:45:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steven@multiplay.co.uk) Received: from mail-lf0-x236.google.com (mail-lf0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c07::236]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C21916E19C for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2017 22:45:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steven@multiplay.co.uk) Received: by mail-lf0-x236.google.com with SMTP id a132so16482839lfa.7 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2017 15:45:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=multiplay-co-uk.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=wXsTNSS2MNhkCRFojOGV7vevaRlpiJjdQj2/HTxzu6s=; b=c57MgOxy5RUSS3DUju0Ll2wPV0AnldFNoGhXoah8xGWzvPus7IuCg3N9x4ZLmScQ8b YwTwNWIfRzFR5EQjp8rks0WEbKe3VdtBZn6VUdURQBThy/tJ8vpW+XKztrpXbxfn7fDk 6egDbzOxvOl/OVOGPhR9KxsgieFh2nW4QCEUCRi5Vsg4DL0CO8yO9l+mZ8hxgpaKrF9m NKsOio86m8i2L/ahcNp+WSqcbRVjTpuNZ9FBaoAYl4l4IjULFcrmF4Wh75bNaPB9HTEt th59tpYwu6ehXuO75rlyRud4kz9h0KUiCMFNfqujq1nVnNjYMCASolbHulJPj6wx6u6J OGug== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=wXsTNSS2MNhkCRFojOGV7vevaRlpiJjdQj2/HTxzu6s=; b=XCPnbYXYa4cGztPZjrnFOLQF3fT3Byiq+EOI6PGWPoC43ko3mAyctmaGpOT1Htuoti UcDPsyFSo+rDlJS0CX9BQMHhUnrvENqE6ZI7tGYFVe8gCscXwzWFOxpwpnkDiYO8YkCV tsKKfKbp/dfksuCI8DlkWinilov2KEM9lIHS3IJVXA+7jL/bThPp730Y8vQliloHCcGt YxcQFk4V0KUYRFc+eIXgvFlzmYrXUo/UFM+fst0GnNwrpm7GayHhpoEeJeOcnErmYcnk PTuZ7kOxmYiF6OCCTuWEnfIMaCyFm9HjISdf1T36a0J0aQCzbOzvpOqeTygY0L/qt7ca Mb6g== X-Gm-Message-State: AMCzsaWkVSNzCtImKHIhUOrrdEofZpPhwR5zaEvz/pFl2gJZO4mkPsAH eRd18ZbhzHCLSn0OylLVa08XOSpqHP21hwQZK+AxFzOC X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABhQp+TJ3bxwJaLwVQTxEw1H5pj/rzSN3dFfsqF2yFdBvLX16/FNxCrImnxXdiUZx1CGj65Z4y6drBXKS2yHGyJeypI= X-Received: by 10.25.83.71 with SMTP id h68mr2893381lfb.241.1508625916620; Sat, 21 Oct 2017 15:45:16 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <201705231659.v4NGxOB8013882@repo.freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: From: Steven Hartland Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2017 22:45:05 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: svn commit: r318751 - in head/sys: kern sys To: Allan Jude , Steve Wills , src-committers@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, svn-src-head@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: svn-src-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "SVN commit messages for the entire src tree \(except for " user" and " projects" \)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2017 22:45:19 -0000 Personally I hate that idea as like being able to see all the processes from the host. I have a similar hate of Linux containers where you have to jump though hoops just to see whats really happening on the host. On Sat, 21 Oct 2017 at 20:29, Allan Jude wrote: > On 2017-05-23 12:59, Steve Wills wrote: > > Author: swills (ports committer) > > Date: Tue May 23 16:59:24 2017 > > New Revision: 318751 > > URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/318751 > > > > Log: > > Add security.bsd.see_jail_proc > > > > Add security.bsd.see_jail_proc sysctl to hide jail processes from > non-root > > users > > > > Reviewed by: jamie > > Approved by: allanjude > > Relnotes: yes > > Differential Revision: https://reviews.freebsd.org/D10770 > > > I user was asking about this issue on IRC today. > > I think I have changed my mind a bit. > > I think we should make the default be off (so you can't see processes in > a jail from the host) by default in 12. > > And that we should MFC this sysctl to stable/11, but not change the > default behaviour there. > > Anyone else have thoughts? > > -- > Allan Jude > >