From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 9 17:26:07 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A6B716A4CE for ; Fri, 9 Jul 2004 17:26:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from av15-1-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net (av15-1-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net [81.228.10.102]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E976643D2D for ; Fri, 9 Jul 2004 17:26:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ertr1013@student.uu.se) Received: by av15-1-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id C228537E45; Fri, 9 Jul 2004 19:26:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp4-1-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net (smtp4-1-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net [81.228.10.181]) by av15-1-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B10B637E42 for ; Fri, 9 Jul 2004 19:26:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from falcon.midgard.homeip.net (h201n1fls24o1048.bredband.comhem.se [212.181.162.201]) by smtp4-1-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 65CFE37E42 for ; Fri, 9 Jul 2004 19:26:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 60791 invoked by uid 1001); 9 Jul 2004 17:26:04 -0000 Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 19:26:03 +0200 From: Erik Trulsson To: sub01@freeode.co.uk Message-ID: <20040709172603.GA60752@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> Mail-Followup-To: sub01@freeode.co.uk, questions@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20040709162025.GG58856@dan.emsphone.com> <20040709164046.GA60260@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> <4site0lii9blqbvd8nlu802shsbrs0q6ui@4ax.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4site0lii9blqbvd8nlu802shsbrs0q6ui@4ax.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Corrupt list archives? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2004 17:26:07 -0000 On Fri, Jul 09, 2004 at 05:58:29PM +0100, John Murphy wrote: > Erik Trulsson wrote: > > >On Fri, Jul 09, 2004 at 05:28:39PM +0100, John Murphy wrote: > >> Dan Nelson wrote: > >> > >> >In the last episode (Jul 09), John Murphy said: > >> >> While browsing the freebsd-questions archives at freebsd.org and via > >> >> google, I noticed that corruption occurs, under some circumstances, > >> >> where "=" becomes "=3D" (3D is ascii for =) and some spaces are shown > >> >> as "=20". > >> > > >> >Sounds like quoted-printable MIME encoding. > >> > > >> >> The first instances of the problem (found via google groups) occurred > >> >> ~1994! The first archived in this list ~Feb. 2000. > >> >> > >> >> The same corruption can be seen in the mailing.freebsd.questions > >> >> newsgroup so it's not an http/html problem. > >> > > >> >Do you have a message-id of a message showing this? > >> > >> This URL: > >> shows the mess made of my original post. > > > >The archive shows your post exactly as it was sent. > > I'm amazed. "=" shows as "=3D" and "=3D" as "=3D3D" for me! > Hyphen hyphen space (sig separator) as "--=20". Yes, exactly. That *is* how your mails are sent. If you look at the headers of your mails they contain the line Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable which means that some letters are encoded exactly as you describe. Most mail-readers understand this format and automatically decodes those letters. > > >Your mails are > >encoded with quoted-printable, which does encode some characters as you > >indicate. The archive is not corrupted since it displays the mails > >exactly as they were received. > > The browsers I've tried are set to Western (ISO-8859-1). Irrelevant. > > >It would be desirable to have the mails in the archive converted from > >quoted-printable into standard 8-bit clean format, but no corruption > >happens. > > The apparent corruption must be visible to many users; can't be just me. Yes, anybody who looks at web-archives will see exactly what you describe, but the archives are not corrupted. The problem is rather that the archives don't understand the quoted-printable format, so the mails are displayed as they were recieved, instead of being converted into a more readable form. -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se