From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Sep 6 0:17:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.169.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 363C637B405 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2001 00:17:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tedm.placo.com (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.168.154]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f867H0711087; Thu, 6 Sep 2001 00:17:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Giorgos Keramidas" , "Mike Meyer" Cc: "Kory Hamzeh" , Subject: RE: Contributing to FreeBSD (was: userland firewall ?) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 00:17:00 -0700 Message-ID: <007901c136a3$eb927e20$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <20010905151243.A466@hades.hell.gr> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Giorgos >Keramidas >Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 5:13 AM >To: Mike Meyer >Cc: Kory Hamzeh; questions@FreeBSD.ORG >Subject: Re: Contributing to FreeBSD (was: userland firewall ?) > > >From: Mike Meyer >Subject: RE: Contributing to FreeBSD (was: userland firewall ?) >Date: Tue, Sep 04, 2001 at 04:28:15PM -0500 > >> Kory Hamzeh types: >> >> > However, this client would have never attempted to migrate to a >unix system >> > by himself. >> >> I've had client install NT, then change their mind and go to >> FreeBSD. They wanted NT to cut me out of the loop - but paying a >> consultant to fix the system was cheaper than dealing with NT. > >Or paying a consultant to fix NT :-) >Which would probably cost a lot more. >At least I know that this is what *I* would do. > >When somebody calls me to install NT because 'they simply want NT', >I ask for more money than when they leave /me/ to decide (even if my >decision eventually seems to weigh towards NT for one reason or >another - unlikely as that may be). > >Ooops, I hope nobody can accuse me of 'unfair practice'. > Why? NT has absolutely horrible, horrible remote management. Most times troubles with NT servers must be fixed by going on-site, while UNIX can often be corrected remotely. As a consultant you cannot let all your time get sucked up by one client. While nobody has published a study, my gut feeling is that freelance consultants that only do NT work have fewer customers that they bill a greater amount of money for. While both kinds can make a decent living, the consultant with more clients that they spend smaller hourly totals with is much better off than a consultant with fewer clients that they spend large hourly totals with. When someone brings you in to create an NT install they are putting you in position where it creates a permanent support burden that is larger than it should be. YOu ought to do what you can to discourage that. Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com >-giorgos > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message