From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Apr 7 09:50:37 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA22914 for hackers-outgoing; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 09:50:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA22904 for ; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 09:50:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rover.village.org [127.0.0.1] by rover.village.org with esmtp (Exim 1.60 #1) id 0wEHc1-0000aO-00; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 10:49:45 -0600 To: mark thompson Subject: Re: sendmail in 2.2 Cc: proff@suburbia.net, hackers@freefall.freebsd.org In-reply-to: Your message of "06 Apr 1997 14:14:22 -0000." <19970406141422.2872.qmail@squirrel.tgsoft.com> References: <19970406141422.2872.qmail@squirrel.tgsoft.com> Date: Mon, 07 Apr 1997 10:49:44 -0600 From: Warner Losh Message-Id: Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message <19970406141422.2872.qmail@squirrel.tgsoft.com> mark thompson writes: : an optional MTA for freebsd (if it can't be the default). Admittedly, : you have to do things 'differently' with qmail, but arguably, the : 'different' way is the way it should always have been. And there is also a port of exim, which does things better than sendmail that I run locally. Works great. The only problem that I have is to remember to disbale sendmail after a make world. That's the biggest impediment right now to these things: they all seem to want to install a /sur/sbin/sendmail emulator so that all the programs on the system will go through their queueing mechanism rather than sendmails (and so you can do a chmod 0 sendmail to make it safe too :-). A long time ago people said they were doing work to make qmail *A* MTA for freebsd. what ever happened to that. I think that it would be a fine thing to allow people to easily change MTAs so that we can get an isntalled base of alternative mailers so we know the problems that using them has on a large scale. Just like the 2.2.x release we thought we had something stable and when it hit the field lots of nits cropped up, so too I fear that if we make any chagnes to the base system before at least some testing similar things might pop up. Warner