From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 2 16:10:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63F87A0B for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2013 16:10:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-current@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1F8952C0C for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2013 16:10:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VcdmR-0000i9-Es for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Sat, 02 Nov 2013 17:10:31 +0100 Received: from cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginm.net ([86.21.186.149]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 02 Nov 2013 17:10:31 +0100 Received: from walterhurry by cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginm.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 02 Nov 2013 17:10:31 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org From: Walter Hurry Subject: Re: Official FreeBSD Binary Packages now available for pkgng Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 16:10:11 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 18 Message-ID: References: <5271BC11.1010303@FreeBSD.org> < CACeEFf4Hif3WHufC=i08gbkXb6oC=4sxbyvO4FQnTkRWA7ZwnA@mail.gmail.com> < 5272D0DE.4080209@FreeBSD.org> < CACeEFf79RZskefh6RzBhxkHuAWnGjPWRDr_JBTRUWcGH4ZNVTg@mail.gmail.com> < CAOjFWZ7BbdXYi3gQtTvCa3jqTmjOC-tt5bwV1GR8Jf=tOanT+Q@mail.gmail.com> < 52745B7F.2080608@vangyzen.net> <5274B947.7030607@FreeBSD.org> < 1680682c-dc77-4ee3-8e59-ee7356f307a3@email.android.com> <5274D90D.8040508@ FreeBSD.org> <20131102113750.GG2951@home.opsec.eu> <5274EFD6.6030504@ FreeBSD.org> <527505D4.8060008@vangyzen.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginm.net User-Agent: Pan/0.139 (Sexual Chocolate; GIT bf56508 git://git.gnome.org/pan2) X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2013 16:10:39 -0000 On Sat, 02 Nov 2013 09:01:56 -0500, Eric van Gyzen wrote: > On 11/02/2013 07:28 AM, Matthew Seaman wrote: >> I feel no obligation to do anything to encourage people that >> deliberately break the DNS. They've made their bed, and now they have >> to lie in it. > > Eric Camachat didn't break the DNS: his network administrator did. > Matthew, you're right: that doesn't make sense. But people do it, > often for security, either real or perceived. In this kind of > environment, many other things are typically equally broken. I imagine > Eric needs all the encouragement he can get. > When Matthew mentioned "people that deliberately break the DNS", I don't think he meant Eric personally; I think he was referring to Eric's *organisation*.