From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Nov 14 02:31:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA29111 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 02:31:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from avon-gw.uk1.vbc.net (jdd@avon-gw.uk1.vbc.net [194.207.2.20]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA29098 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 02:31:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jdd@localhost) by avon-gw.uk1.vbc.net (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA14884; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 10:32:11 GMT Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 10:32:10 +0000 (GMT) From: Jim Dixon X-Sender: jdd@avon-gw.uk1.vbc.net To: Veggy Vinny cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG, Chad Shackley Subject: Re: Decision in Router Purchase In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 14 Nov 1996, Veggy Vinny wrote: > > Nothing to be ashamed of. Two of the largest networks in the world, > > IBM and ans.net, use UNIX-based routers running gated. > > Really? I thought they used Cisco's or Cascade. No. ans.net has two separate autonomous systems, one (AS690) using gated boxes and the other (just being implemented, I think), using Bay routers. Both IBM and ANS are members of the gated consortium. > > Other problems: the logic for each port is on a small daughterboard. > > This is held in only by friction. There is a device below one of the > > daughterboards -- the one for port 0, unfortunately -- that is too > > high (because it is socketed), so you can't get the daughterboard all > > the way in without causing it to bow. Then over time it gradually works > > its way out. > > So it actually has physical problems that can be costly over time? The daughterboard works its way loose. > Hmmm, I emailed Dennis at ET and the only problem we had was the > COD only policy for payment. I think that support at ET has improved considerably. I could be wrong ;-) > Hmmm, what are the differences between the two cards anyways? Nothing much, as far as I can see, in terms of functionality. That is, they do the same job. > We're gonna have either a Full T1 or a Frame Relay T1. So the SDL card > doesn't support FR? There is no FreeBSD driver that handles frame relay. It's not a problem with the card. There _are_ BSD/OS and Linux drivers for SDL. > As for the SDL, is the RiscSomething mentioned on the > ET homepage actually the SDL card? Oh, probably. Dennis is given to slamming the opposition. The full name of the dual-port card is the RISCom N2d. -- Jim Dixon VBCnet GB Ltd http://www.vbc.net tel +44 117 929 1316 fax +44 117 927 2015