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Date:      Sun, 9 Dec 2001 15:33:06 -0500
From:      Bara Zani <bara_zani@yahoo.com>
To:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: telnet to a Win2k-pro machine
Message-ID:  <20011209153306.A540@weebo>
In-Reply-To: <3C12CB0E.2050203@owt.com>; from kstewart@owt.com on Sat, Dec 08, 2001 at 06:23:10PM -0800
References:  <20011208223542.U29324-100000@big> <04cb01c1804f$2673f5b0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <3C12BCBB.80700@owt.com> <04e401c18050$314ea060$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <3C12BEEC.6010402@owt.com> <04eb01c18054$217e7b70$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <3C12CB0E.2050203@owt.com>

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On Sat, Dec 08, 2001 at 06:23:10PM -0800, Kent Stewart wrote:
have a look here for win2k command line use 
http://www.labmice.net/Administration/command.htm
<*> 
<*> 
<*> Anthony Atkielski wrote:
<*> 
<*> > Kent writes:
<*> > 
<*> > 
<*> >>Well, NT-3.5x+ has had a POSIX subsystem and you
<*> >>can run the POSIX commands from the telnet command
<*> >>line.
<*> >>
<*> > 
<*> > That's not NT administration, though.  If you want something to run POSIX
<*> > with telnet, why not just run UNIX?
<*> 
<*> 
<*> There are a lot of command line program to do sysadmin stuff from the 
<*> command line. Find out where they are called is a different matter. Now 
<*> you can use XP and use the remote admin capability.
<*> 
<*> I can't imagine using it either but if you add the MKS toolkit, you have 
<*> pretty close to a real POSIX system. I have several computers running 
<*> full time. One is a W2K Server and the other two run only FreeBSD. It is 
<*> too easy to use one of the system running the proper OS for the task 
<*> than it is to make task run on the wrong OS.
<*> 
<*> 
<*> > 
<*> > 
<*> >>For an editor, I use vi even on W2K.
<*> >>
<*> > 
<*> > I use Notepad on Windows.  For FreeBSD, currently I use joe most of the
<*> > time.  vi has a steep learning curve for the simple editing I usually have
<*> > to do.
<*> 
<*> 
<*> I had to learn vi when we had a Cray X/MP scheduled to be delivered in 
<*> 1988. I was to fly to Minneapolis to benchmark what was to be our system 
<*> and there weren't a lot of choices for editors. Cray thought that just 
<*> using vi was abusing their system. The only other choices were as bad as 
<*> using "ed" on a DOS system. Once you get comfortable with something like 
<*> an editor, it takes a lot to get you to switch. There was "Elvis" and it 
<*> was available on everything I used.
<*> 
<*> Most of the cursor keys work now even in input mode. There are only 
<*> about 6 commands that you need to know to get started. Notepad won't do 
<*> regular expressions. Doing a proper cross line cut and paste is hard 
<*> from vi. I also use notepad when it will be the easiest.
<*> 
<*> 
<*> > 
<*> > 
<*> >>You can also setup your W2K machine to accept
<*> >>lpr from a Unix system. I can't imagine adding
<*> >>samba to a fine Unix machine just to share a printer.
<*> >>
<*> > 
<*> > You could attach an A/B switch to the printer.
<*> 
<*> When that happens, I am usually on a different floor. They are networked 
<*> together anyway. If you turn your W2K machine into a lpr server, you 
<*> don't have to do anything. It just works automagically.
<*> 
<*> I have seen the electronic A/B switches and all they are is a bandaid 
<*> solution. Sooner or later, you lose a print job because of contention.
<*> 
<*> -- 
<*> Kent Stewart
<*> Richland, WA
<*> 
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