From owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Fri Aug 9 13:32:29 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25733C96CB for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2019 13:32:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cy.schubert@cschubert.com) Received: from smtp-out-no.shaw.ca (smtp-out-no.shaw.ca [64.59.134.9]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "Client", Issuer "CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 464mPm23m8z4ZVY for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2019 13:32:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cy.schubert@cschubert.com) Received: from spqr.komquats.com ([70.67.125.17]) by shaw.ca with ESMTPA id w50Jh9M6osAGkw50KhsGe3; Fri, 09 Aug 2019 07:32:25 -0600 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=WeVylHpX c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=VFtTW3WuZNDh6VkGe7fA3g==:117 a=VFtTW3WuZNDh6VkGe7fA3g==:17 a=jpOVt7BSZ2e4Z31A5e1TngXxSK0=:19 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=FmdZ9Uzk2mMA:10 a=vxP3BzG0AAAA:8 a=YxBL1-UpAAAA:8 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=HfSEoNKeE166lXEH_6IA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=4tHceQipB5Rc01mo_vQZ:22 a=Ia-lj3WSrqcvXOmTRaiG:22 a=IjZwj45LgO3ly-622nXo:22 Received: from [192.168.1.103] (S0106002401cb186f.gv.shawcable.net [70.67.125.17]) by spqr.komquats.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5E36145D; Fri, 9 Aug 2019 06:32:22 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2019 06:32:20 -0700 In-Reply-To: <20190807221946.GB42725@bastion.zyxst.net> References: <20190807201448.GA42725@bastion.zyxst.net> <201908072050.x77Ko5QD089298@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> <20190807221946.GB42725@bastion.zyxst.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: svn commit: r350550 - head/share/mk To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org,tech-lists From: Cy Schubert Message-ID: X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfDH5Wqx+Et7IzCDwLjJ56ALqzJBWCqHaWHIJyvmF1VgkwS/6g0h2+shh3BFpC+qjrSfrbb4ax59q7LNOzOPM8t0htj64f0CO9ckhLyqtS4WkQmWHTdgq sWbX6fqyWWsxrPgNwmfSmuG1ju+1GG/ViRGEP8/VJ5e4+Ffiya+HBGjCEh03wLpbOIYe5JwMROaZF1Sau20V/QLzz7buuKd4H0SJIus554MTk6a1yzMRvV7y X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 464mPm23m8z4ZVY X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of cy.schubert@cschubert.com has no SPF policy when checking 64.59.134.9) smtp.mailfrom=cy.schubert@cschubert.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.53 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.994,0]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[9.134.59.64.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6327, ipnet:64.59.128.0/20, country:CA]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-2.44)[ip: (-6.48), ipnet: 64.59.128.0/20(-3.17), asn: 6327(-2.47), country: CA(-0.09)]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[17.125.67.70.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11] X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2019 13:32:29 -0000 On August 7, 2019 3:19:46 PM PDT, tech-lists wrote= : >On Wed, Aug 07, 2019 at 02:08:14PM -0700, Xin LI wrote: > >Hi, > >>I haven't dig deep on this topic, but it seems that parsing 'svn info' >>output would solve it (by using "Last Changed Rev:" value)=2E >> >>This issue do not exist on git=2E > >svn info will not return the revision of the running system=2E This is my >point=2E With reproductible build turned on, there is no way as far as >I'm aware >of getting the revision of the sources the system was built from, and >that bit of info can be very useful diagnosing/fixing and updating=2E > >It will return the revision of what the source directory was last >updated to=2E >That will probably be later than the running system=2E It won't return >anything at all of course if the sources are no longer there=2E > >I'll try explaining another way=2E Let's say I'm relatively new to >freebsd >and I read up on downloading a 12-stable-snapshot and follow stable=2E >Some issue with the base system happens=2E I email to stable@ and they >ask >what I'm running=2E I say, (because reproductible build defaults to "on" >in >this example) 12-stable=2E It's not really helpful to those wanting to >assist=2E What benefit is had by losing this information by default? This change doesn't affect and never will affect users of stable=2E This i= s a -current (13-current to be exact) change only=2E --=20 Pardon the typos and autocorrect, small keyboard in use=2E Cheers, Cy Schubert FreeBSD UNIX: Web: http://www=2EFreeBSD=2Eorg The need of the many outweighs the greed of the few=2E