From owner-freebsd-chat Fri Sep 14 10:51:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mail.the-i-pa.com (mail.the-i-pa.com [151.201.71.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E50AB37B40E for ; Fri, 14 Sep 2001 10:51:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 13689 invoked from network); 14 Sep 2001 18:01:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sqltest) (151.201.71.153) by mail.the-i-pa.com with SMTP; 14 Sep 2001 18:01:56 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Bill Moran To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Helping victims of terror Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 17:45:20 +0000 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: <20010914152445.H3356@jake.akitanet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20010914152445.H3356@jake.akitanet.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01091417452001.15691@sqltest> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Friday 14 September 2001 14:24, Paul Robinson wrote: > On Sep 14, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > > "Americans have never shrunk from battle, nor have we ever given in, > > and we will not do so now." > > If that isn't hollow rhetoric, I don't know what is... dear, oh dear. You > see, this is the problem with people in power. They think they have to > fight. If they thought to themselves 'actually, we could just try and talk > to the people behind this' then perhaps the world would be a nicer place. > But then, I'm only 23 so probably don't 'understand' the world. Ho-hum. Unfortunately, no you don't. Simple fact is, there ARE a small percentage of people that are so wacko that you simply can NOT reason with them. I knew a fellow in West Virginia who was racist that I tried to straighten out. It was impossible. Over a period of several months and countless conversations, he held his racist ground. Facts and reality seem to elude people like this, and when you've got someone who feels this way about killing people, you've got someone that will organized an attack like we had Tuesday. On a related note, I was discussing this with a friend yesterday. If any of the information I present here is wrong, I'd appreciate corrections: Apparently this Ladden guy was a top official in the Saudi government not that long ago. Unfortunately, the Saudi government had to kick him out because Saudi Arabia (as a whole) was pursuing a more peaceful stance with the rest of the world, and Ladden just wouldn't play along. Now he's a refugee training terrorists, whereas he was controlling armies not that long ago. If this information is correct, then the most important thing is that the US policy toward the middle east needs to change as little as possible - because it was WORKING! Crazed lunitics are being forced out of governments and are resorting to terrorism to get their "fix" On the other hand, we need to beef up our resistance to future attacks like this, because as more and more nations become peaceful, more and more lunitics will be forced out of government and end up training terrorists. Any thoughts on this theory? -Bill To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message