From owner-freebsd-ports Fri Jan 18 17:29:52 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from voi.aagh.net (pc1-hart4-0-cust168.mid.cable.ntl.com [62.254.84.168]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E87337B400 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 17:29:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from freaky by voi.aagh.net with local (Exim 3.34 #1) id 16RkK5-000MZH-00 for ports@freebsd.org; Sat, 19 Jan 2002 01:29:33 +0000 Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2002 01:29:33 +0000 From: Thomas Hurst To: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: XML category Message-ID: <20020119012933.GA86368@voi.aagh.net> Mail-Followup-To: ports@freebsd.org References: <20020119005036.GA82570@voi.aagh.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.25i Organization: Not much. X-Operating-System: FreeBSD/4.5-PRERELEASE (i386) X-Uptime: 1:11AM up 29 days, 9:57, 5 users, load averages: 2.11, 2.04, 2.01 Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org * Dag-Erling Smorgrav (des@ofug.org) wrote: > What on earth is "a means to an end rather than an end into itself" > supposed to mean, XML is a file format for storing data, it could just as easily be SGML, or an .ini file, or a dbm, or a C data structure dump; that a port involves XML doesn't mean it should be filed primarily as such. > and why is it relevant to whether there should be a separate XML > category? textproc/resume creates resumes from an XML source, *-docbook* can and often are used with an XML source, most new HTML these days is XML, but that they use XML is secondary to their purpose, which is to provide documentation in other formats. XML is rarely the point of a port, although they may use it to provide a standardised file format. > There is a large number of XML-related ports which are currently stuck > in textproc for lack of a better category, but can't really be labeled > as "text processing tools". XML is text, hence handling XML is text processing, no? :) > One could say the same about SGML, BTW. Exactly; moving docbook-xml to another category where the rest of docbook- don't belong suggests to me this isn't the right way to go about it. > Even for those that *do* belong in textproc, it would be useful to be > able to list "xml" in addition to "textproc" in CATEGORY. I agree that better categoration would be nice, but picking a file format they use as a name for it doesn't sit well with me. Something more along the lines of the x11-* categories would be more appropriate I think; just cleaning out (p5|ruby|py)-* into, say, textproc-devel, etc, would be a better direction imo. -- Thomas 'Freaky' Hurst - freaky@aagh.net - http://www.aagh.net/ - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-ports" in the body of the message