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Date:      Mon, 28 Jul 1997 17:03:19 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Vincent Poy <vince@mail.MCESTATE.COM>
To:        "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@time.cdrom.com>
Cc:        security@FreeBSD.ORG, "[Mario1-]" <mario1@PrimeNet.Com>, JbHunt <johnnyu@accessus.net>
Subject:   Re: security hole in FreeBSD 
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.3.95.970728170156.3844H-100000@mail.MCESTATE.COM>
In-Reply-To: <5496.870134385@time.cdrom.com>

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On Mon, 28 Jul 1997, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:

=)> 	Well, because I connect to the system using telnet ;)  Also, this
=)
=)That proves absolutely nothing.  You think I can't hack a telnetd to
=)provide multiple "services?"  Wake up, Vinnie! :-)

	Ofcourse you could but you're not in the same type of hacking
business this guy is in.  This is a log of a irc chat session.


>From johnnyu@accessus.net Mon Jul 28 17:01:43 1997
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 18:38:32 -0500 (CDT)
From: NoHackMe! <johnnyu@accessus.net>
To: security@netcom.com
Cc: vince@mcestate.com, mario1@primenet.com
Subject: Logs (Gaianet.net)

Here is a log I just got from talking with theca the hacker!

Session Start: Mon Jul 28 18:16:14 1997
[18:16] <TheCa> yeah
[18:16] <TheCa> hi
[18:16] <TheCa> wasup
<JbHuNt> that was nice of you
<JbHuNt> last night
[18:16] <TheCa> what? pasting the root pass all over efnet?
<JbHuNt> yea
[18:16] <TheCa> so was icmp pinging me
<JbHuNt> you shouldn't have hacked the machine
[18:17] <TheCa> i was nice till that started
<JbHuNt> aside from that the minor ping that you got was 
  nothing
<JbHuNt> you have created a HUGE DOS situation for the entire 
  company
[18:17] <TheCa> i'll show you all the pings i got
[18:17] <TheCa> 1 sec.
<JbHuNt> I don't care?
[18:17] <TheCa> ok
<JbHuNt> You were pinged
<JbHuNt> why?
[18:18] <TheCa> why am i causing a dos?
[18:18] <TheCa> bring your machines back up
<JbHuNt> well let's see you changed the root passwd
<JbHuNt> handed it out
[18:18] <TheCa> Jul 28 02:29:45 soma icmplog: ping from 
  venus.GAIANET.NET
[18:18] <TheCa> Jul 28 02:30:19 soma last message repeated 10 
  times
[18:18] <TheCa> Jul 28 02:31:20 soma last message repeated 18 
  times
[18:18] <TheCa> Jul 28 02:32:04 soma last message repeated 64 
  times
[18:18] <TheCa> Jul 28 02:38:52 soma last message repeated 31 
  times
[18:18] <TheCa> Jul 28 02:39:53 soma last message repeated 54 
  times
[18:18] <TheCa> Jul 28 02:40:54 soma last message repeated 60 
  times
[18:18] <TheCa> Jul 28 02:41:37 soma last message repeated 42 
  times
[18:18] <TheCa> i changed the root passwd to 'root'
<JbHuNt> someone changed the inetd.conf and rebooted
[18:18] <TheCa> yeah
[18:18] <TheCa> i didn't do that
<JbHuNt> so now all the machines are pretty much denying all 
  hosts
<JbHuNt> we don't care to much
[18:19] <TheCa> one of the windows lusers who saw my paste
<JbHuNt> as far as we're concerned your the cause of the 
  problem
[18:19] <TheCa> umm
[18:19] <TheCa> why don't you fix the inetd.conf
<JbHuNt> let's put it like this
[18:19] <TheCa> instead of bitching about it
<JbHuNt> that system is admin'd remotely
<JbHuNt> that system is admin'd remotely
[18:20] <TheCa> so NO one has physical access to the machine?
<JbHuNt> your actions caused the main unix boxes on the lan
<JbHuNt> not at the present time the owners are out of the 
  country
[18:20] <TheCa> so go drive over there or something and boot 
  it up
[18:20] <TheCa> i told you the root pass...
<JbHuNt> anything I did to you was in an attempt to thwart 
  your efforts to take control
<JbHuNt> all of my feable efforts failed
<JbHuNt> your a super leet spoof aren't you who's caching 
  your dns
[18:22] <TheCa> i'm caching it
[18:22] <TheCa> on an authorative ns box i rooted
<JbHuNt> Hmm that neet
[18:23] <TheCa> yep
<JbHuNt> That would explain why netcom security can't find 
  you on the portmaster
________________________________________
| TheCa (theca@wil-de7-10.ix.netcom.com)
| name : No bodies ever knew...
| serv : irc.pacbell.net

[18:24] <TheCa> tell netcom to change the !root pass on some 
  of their portmasters
[18:24] <TheCa> just to be umm safe
[18:25] <TheCa> netcom has no security...it's a joke
<JbHuNt> that's good
[18:25] <TheCa> netcom shell security is great
[18:25] <TheCa> ppp security == null
[18:26] <TheCa> they've got the biggest REAL isp (not 
  including aol, etc)...you think they can keep track or even 
  try to keep track of everyone?
[18:26] <TheCa> they have well over half a million users
<JbHuNt> you think they can find you?
<JbHuNt> you think they can find you?
Session Close: Mon Jul 28 18:32:07 1997

[18:28] <TheCa_> Jul 28 19:28:14 soma pppd[16376]: Modem hangup
[18:28] <TheCa_> Jul 28 19:28:14 soma pppd[16376]: Connection terminated.
[18:28] <TheCa_> Jul 28 19:28:14 soma pppd[16376]: Exit.
[18:29] <TheCa_> *clap clap*
[18:29] <TheCa_> nice

[18:30] <TheCa_> i'll see if that netcom acct is still up
<JbHuNt> he probably doesn't have the account
(!) The time is now 6:30pm.
[18:30] <TheCa_> something like "connect S0" or the port
<JbHuNt> they just dumped the entire wilmington port
[18:30] <TheCa_> ah
[18:30] <TheCa_> heh
[18:30] <TheCa_> that's stupid
[18:30] <TheCa_> now there's no way they'll find me
________________________________________
| TheCa_ (theca@phd-as15s15.erols.com)

That's it John basically he admits it and implies he has control over at
least one of your portmasters and possibly one of your dns servers. This
is a serious security issue for us and should be for you. If you have ANY
contacts at erols.com please forward this to them and cc us if you would.

John Urschel
Gaianet Unix Administrator



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