From owner-freebsd-current Sat Nov 2 16:43:39 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EDE437B401 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 16:43:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from harmony.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2EBF43E42 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 16:43:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (warner@rover2.village.org [10.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id gA30hZpk073325; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 17:43:35 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 17:42:33 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <20021102.174233.109548622.imp@bsdimp.com> To: sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu Cc: winter@jurai.net, mark@grondar.org, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: __sF From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <20021102233215.GA30122@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> References: <200211021906.gA2J6ld0072679@grimreaper.grondar.org> <20021102181431.H35807-100000@sasami.jurai.net> <20021102233215.GA30122@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> X-Mailer: Mew version 2.1 on Emacs 21.2 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message: <20021102233215.GA30122@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Steve Kargl writes: : On Sat, Nov 02, 2002 at 06:15:09PM -0500, Matthew N. Dodd wrote: : > On Sat, 2 Nov 2002, Mark Murray wrote: : > > This shouldn't be a problem. The commercial software Should Not Be(tm) : > > supporting something as variable as CURRENT, and with the STABLE libraries : > > around in COMPAT mode, the compiler Will Just Work(tm) (or should with : > > not much effort). : > > : > > By the time __sF is mainstream, I guess the vendor will have adapted : > > their product to match. Win, win. : > : > This isn't the case for one piece of vendor software that I'm not allowed : > to talk about. : > : : See the new WANT_COMPAT4_STDIO make.conf knob. But that knob is a total kludge and *WRONG* for this case. It lets things link, but you are still cross threading 4.x and 5.x binaries, which is asking to be shot in the foot. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message