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From: Jon Bergfeld <jbergfel@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: FreeBSD Security Advisory FreeBSD-SA-02:21.tcpip
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look, the existing process seems to work fine for everyone else, so if
you want a new way to upgrade, develop it yourself.

now stop trolling and let's move on.


--- Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org> wrote:
> At 11:54 AM 4/18/2002, Jamie Norwood wrote:
> 
> >> Not true at all. What administrators using FreeBSD need is not
> >> "hand-holding" but a way to upgrade to a known good snapshot.
> >> Not necessarily the absolute latest, but one with the needed
> >> patches which others have seen to work.
> >
> >This is RELENG_4_5. What are you looking for that it does not 
> >provide? 
> 
> This is a CVS tag, not a build. Also, what you get when you
> bring it in will change over time, so you can't easily answer
> the question, "What patch level is this server running?"
> What's needed is builds either from this or from -STABLE
> (with testing to make sure nothing's broken) that one can
> download and install without recompiling the world. With
> numbers such that one can say, "This server is at -p3 and
> a new security hole was found.... I'll upgrade to -p4 tonight."
> Simple, convenient, and likely to work without fuss, so that
> we can install the build and get back to more important things,
> like developing code.
> 
> --Brett
> 
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