From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 30 16:01:25 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20BD4AB9 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 16:01:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from daniel@digsys.bg) Received: from smtp-sofia.digsys.bg (smtp-sofia.digsys.bg [193.68.21.123]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 97BCF2C90 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 16:01:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dcave.digsys.bg (dcave.digsys.bg [193.68.6.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp-sofia.digsys.bg (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r6UG1M3N000488 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 19:01:22 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from daniel@digsys.bg) Message-ID: <51F7E352.30300@digsys.bg> Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 19:01:22 +0300 From: Daniel Kalchev User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130627 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Bind in FreeBSD, security advisories References: <1375186900.23467.3223791.24CB348A@webmail.messagingengine.com> <51F7B5C7.6050008@digsys.bg> <51F7C07C.9060606@digsys.bg> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 16:01:25 -0000 On 30.07.13 16:44, Ronald Klop wrote: > On Tue, 30 Jul 2013 15:32:44 +0200, Daniel Kalchev > wrote: > >> >> Back to the topic :) >> >> My take on this is that removing BIND from the base today is.. >> irresponsible. First, most who use FreeBSD expect an DNS server to be >> readily available. > > Interesting. What are your statistics of 'most' based on? Unfortunately, not much objective statistics. The bsdstats sample is rather small and obviously biased (towards people who would share their config, mostly). I was hoping for some usable data from the Open Resolver Project (http://openresolverproject.org/)but there is not much useful information for this purpose there either. It is also very unlikely a pool would result in any meaningful data... But here is an idea: Remove BIND from HEAD overnight and see how many will complain ;-) If nobody complains, don't put it back in. Daniel