From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 31 20:44:40 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A033106564A for ; Sun, 31 Oct 2010 20:44:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: from apollo.backplane.com (apollo.backplane.com [216.240.41.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A4B68FC13 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 2010 20:44:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from apollo.backplane.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by apollo.backplane.com (8.14.4/8.14.1) with ESMTP id o9VKiPh8049616; Sun, 31 Oct 2010 13:44:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by apollo.backplane.com (8.14.4/8.13.4/Submit) id o9VKiPwG049615; Sun, 31 Oct 2010 13:44:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 13:44:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Dillon Message-Id: <201010312044.o9VKiPwG049615@apollo.backplane.com> To: perryh@pluto.rain.com References: <4ccceb10.4n2iAQ/sY/YrDSI2%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <201010311635.o9VGZG1O046164@apollo.backplane.com> <4ccdcdaa.XSDkZZUUYXDXpkXV%perryh@pluto.rain.com> Cc: cronfy@gmail.com, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Slow disk access while rsync - what should I tune? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 20:44:40 -0000 :> and the output produced by dump is not live-accessible whereas a :> snapshot / live filesystem copy is. That makes the dump fairly :> worthless for anything other than catastrophic recovery. : :Ever heard of "restore -i"? Have you ever tried to restore a single file from a 2 Terrabyte dump file ? Or even better, if you are using incremental dumps, try restoring a single file from 6 dump files. I'm not saying that dump/restore is completely unusable, I'm saying that it MOSTLY unusable for the use cases people have today for backups. There is a certain convenience to being able to restore a file from a live backup in a few seconds verses having to struggle with large multi-layered incremental dump/restore files that were designed to be spooled off to tape units. -Matt Matthew Dillon