From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 7 01:37:16 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ACF316A4CE; Sun, 7 Nov 2004 01:37:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from blackwater.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C2C543D31; Sun, 7 Nov 2004 01:37:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by blackwater.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 56AE88564D; Sun, 7 Nov 2004 12:07:12 +1030 (CST) Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2004 12:07:12 +1030 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: Scott Long Message-ID: <20041107013712.GS24507@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <200411061126.23666.msch@snafu.de> <20041106152125.GC80167@freebie.xs4all.nl> <200411061803.21539.msch@snafu.de> <20041106173913.GA80837@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20041107003413.GQ24507@wantadilla.lemis.com> <418D7457.1040806@freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="zu8lIfFVzXMVnfzp" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <418D7457.1040806@freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 cc: Matthias Schuendehuette cc: Wilko Bulte cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gvinum remains broken in 5.3-RELEASE? X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Nov 2004 01:37:16 -0000 --zu8lIfFVzXMVnfzp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Saturday, 6 November 2004 at 18:03:19 -0700, Scott Long wrote: > Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: >> On Saturday, 6 November 2004 at 18:39:13 +0100, Wilko Bulte wrote: >> >>> On Sat, Nov 06, 2004 at 06:03:20PM +0100, Matthias Schuendehuette wrote.. >>> >>>> Hello Wilko, >>>> >>>> Am Samstag, 6. November 2004 16:21 schrieb Wilko Bulte: >>>> >>>>> On Sat, Nov 06, 2004 at 11:26:16AM +0100, Matthias Schuendehuette >>>>> wrote.. >>>>> >>>>>> I cannot imagine to deliver/sell CDs with 5.3-RELEASE on it with a >>>>>> broken gvinum RAID5 where the fix is available for (roughly) 2 >>>>>> weeks now. >>>>> >>>>> You obviously have NO idea what it means to build releases for >>>>> all the architectures etc etc. >>>> >>>> My apologies if I made you upset... >>> >>> Oh, not upset. Problem is that there are most likely lots of other >>> bugs still in 5.3-R. >>> >>> Thing is, at some point we just need to call it a day and put the >>> generated bits on the ftp-servers. Otherwise there would never >>> be a RELEASE.. >> >> I can appreciate that the leadup to 5.3-RELEASE has been painful, but >> what's the purpose of a release which doesn't work? For a large >> number of Vinum users, 5.3 will be a release to avoid. > > Lukas and I discussed this extensively, and the decision was agreed > upon. No question: to clarify, you and I also discussed the matter and agreed on this course of action.. Unfortunately, the end users may disagree with all of us. As I said, the decision wasn't easy. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers. --zu8lIfFVzXMVnfzp Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBjXxIIubykFB6QiMRAhURAKCJLqso6XnJIMythsELItUQE1ggtwCfbvem 1arT5NeWPWhuL8oWiUaan3A= =l2tH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --zu8lIfFVzXMVnfzp--