From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 26 21:20:21 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE36A477 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 21:20:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from b.smeelen@ose.nl) Received: from mail.ose.nl (mail.ose.nl [212.178.134.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BF5A8FC13 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 21:20:20 +0000 (UTC) X-Footer: b3NlLm5s Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.ose.nl (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher AES256-SHA (256 bits)); Mon, 26 Nov 2012 22:20:19 +0100 Message-ID: <50B3DD13.5030002@ose.nl> Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 22:20:19 +0100 From: Bas Smeelen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help review the FAQ References: <1353868081735-5764056.post@n5.nabble.com> <1353941396782-5764313.post@n5.nabble.com> <50B38A3F.6020001@gmail.com> <1353945307512-5764351.post@n5.nabble.com> <1353945435502-5764353.post@n5.nabble.com> <50B394D6.7070306@quip.cz> <1353947122759-5764360.post@n5.nabble.com> <50B3D096.8020207@ose.nl> <50B3D6C3.1010400@ose.nl> <4BE7B576-ADED-4010-9AC9-DFFD7AB50039@lafn.org> In-Reply-To: <4BE7B576-ADED-4010-9AC9-DFFD7AB50039@lafn.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 21:20:21 -0000 On 11/26/12 22:02, Doug Hardie wrote: > On 26 November 2012, at 12:53, Bas Smeelen wrote: > >> On 11/26/12 21:27, Bas Smeelen wrote: >>> On 11/26/12 17:25, Jakub Lach wrote: >>>> Thanks! >>>> >>>> Regarding FAQ, some info about journalling should be added to >>>> "Chapter 9 Disks, File Systems, and Boot Loaders", especially now, >>>> when SU+J is default. >> Please also add: >> SU+J does not work (yet) with dump on a live filesystem i.e. use snapshot. >> If you want to use snapshot (dump -L) then disable the soft updates journal for that filesystem > It would be helpful to include information on how to do that during install (still trying to figure that out myself), and using the recover CD for when you forget to do it during install. Right now, when installing a new system it's easiest to reboot to single user mode after the install and tunefs -j disable 'the filesystems' to disable journaling of soft updates. If you want to accomplish this during the install, choose shell at the disk partitioning part and add slices and/or partitions with gpart and then newfs them with the appropriate options, then mount them on /mnt and the appropriate places beneath and continue the install by quitting the shell. There are some nice entries on http://wiki.freebsd.org/RootOnZFS Just substitute the ZFS stuff with the easier gpart and then newfs -U etc... then make sure the filesystems are mounted under /mnt and continue the installation. I hope that I will not confuse you too much with the proposed solution i.e. use these resources as a guideline. Else see reboot to single user mode after install above and tunefs