From owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Tue Mar 30 15:55:27 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FDD857B9F4 for ; Tue, 30 Mar 2021 15:55:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from karl@denninger.net) Received: from colo1.denninger.net (colo1.denninger.net [104.236.120.189]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4F8vDG5yQYz4vw6 for ; Tue, 30 Mar 2021 15:55:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from karl@denninger.net) Received: from denninger.net (096-033-205-208.res.spectrum.com [96.33.205.208]) by colo1.denninger.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43A3F2110A5 for ; Tue, 30 Mar 2021 11:55:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.10.25] (D15.Denninger.Net [192.168.10.25]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by denninger.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 895EC320939 for ; Tue, 30 Mar 2021 11:55:25 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: possibly silly question regarding freebsd-update To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: From: Karl Denninger Message-ID: <7e96f815-2955-cfd2-cf6d-16187bc5a233@denninger.net> Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2021 11:55:24 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha-512; boundary="------------ms080404020002090003010608" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4F8vDG5yQYz4vw6 X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=denninger.net; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of karl@denninger.net designates 104.236.120.189 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=karl@denninger.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.90 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx:c]; HAS_ATTACHMENT(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[denninger.net,none]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:+,3:~,4:~]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[104.236.120.189:from]; ASN(0.00)[asn:14061, ipnet:104.236.64.0/18, country:US]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[karl]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; SIGNED_SMIME(-2.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-stable@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[104.236.120.189:from:127.0.2.255]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-stable] X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.34 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2021 15:55:27 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms080404020002090003010608 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 3/30/2021 11:22, Guido Falsi via freebsd-stable wrote: > On 30/03/21 15:35, tech-lists wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Recently there was >> https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-security/2021-March/010380= =2Ehtml=20 >> >> about openssl. Upgraded to 12.2-p5 with freebsd-update and rebooted. >> >> What I'm unsure about is the openssl version. >> Up-to-date 12.1-p5 instances report OpenSSL 1.1.1h-freebsd=A0 22 Sep 2= 020 >> >> Up-to-date stable/13-n245043-7590d7800c4 reports OpenSSL 1.1.1k-freebs= d >> 25 Mar 2021 >> >> shouldn't the 12.2-p5 be reporting openssl 1.1.1k-freebsd as well? >> > > No, as you can see in the commit in the official git [1] while for=20 > current and stable the new upstream version of openssl was imported=20 > for the release the fix was applied without importing the new release=20 > and without changing the reported version of the library. > > So with 12.2p5 you do get the fix but don't get a new version of the=20 > library. > > > [1]=20 > https://cgit.freebsd.org/src/commit/?h=3Dreleng/12.2&id=3Daf61348d61f51= a88b438d41c3c91b56b2b65ed9b > > Excuse me.... $ uname -v FreeBSD 12.2-RELEASE-p4 GENERIC $ sudo sh # freebsd-update fetch Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 3 mirrors found. Fetching metadata signature for 12.2-RELEASE from update4.freebsd.org... = done. Fetching metadata index... done. Inspecting system... done. Preparing to download files... done. No updates needed to update system to 12.2-RELEASE-p5. I am running 12.2-RELEASE-p4, so says uname -v IMHO it is an *extraordinarily* bad practice to change a library that in = fact will result in a revision change while leaving the revision number=20 alone. How do I *know*, without source to go look at, whether or not the fix is = present on a binary system? If newvers.sh gets bumped then a build and -p5 release should have=20 resulted from that, and in turn a fetch/install (and reboot of course=20 since it's in the kernel) should result in uname -v returning "-p5" Most of my deployed "stuff" is on -STABLE but I do have a handful of=20 machines on cloud infrastructure that are binary-only and on which I=20 rely on freebsd-update and pkg to keep current with security-related item= s. --=20 Karl Denninger karl@denninger.net /The Market Ticker/ /[S/MIME encrypted email preferred]/ --------------ms080404020002090003010608 Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExDzANBglghkgBZQMEAgMFADCABgkqhkiG9w0BBwEAAKCC DdgwggagMIIEiKADAgECAhMA5EiKghDOXrvfxYxjITXYDdhIMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBCwUAMIGL MQswCQYDVQQGEwJVUzEQMA4GA1UECAwHRmxvcmlkYTESMBAGA1UEBwwJTmljZXZpbGxlMRkw 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