From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Aug 15 21:08:16 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 969401070BE9 for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2018 21:08:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from karly@kipshouse.net) Received: from mgmt.ironboy.kipshouse.net (ironboy.kipshouse.net [IPv6:2001:470:835a:4242::42]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mx.kipshouse.net", Issuer "Starfield Secure Certificate Authority - G2" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DD7477BDB2 for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2018 21:08:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from karly@kipshouse.net) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=kipshouse.org; i=@kipshouse.org; q=dns/txt; s=kh-ss; t=1534367296; x=1565903296; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references: mime-version:in-reply-to; z=Date:=20Wed,=2015=20Aug=202018=2014:08:13=20-0700|From: =20Karl=20Young=20|To:=20Dave=20Haye s=20|Cc:=20Alejandro=20Imass=20,=0D=0A=09FreeBSD=20Questions=20|Subject:=20Re:=20Hello...|Message-ID: =20<20180815210813.GH13174@mailboy.kipshouse.net> |References:=20<175f53e88fb5ebf26527882827080cd7@cannabis .fr.pl>=0D=0A=20=0D=0A=20<20180815182210.GA237 01@sh4-5.1blu.de>=0D=0A=20=0D=0A=20<2018081512 0028.4e90ebf2@hokkshideh.dream-tech.com>=0D=0A=20=0D=0A=20<20180815140020.435ac9b8@hokkshideh.dream-tec h.com>|MIME-Version:=201.0|In-Reply-To:=20<20180815140020 .435ac9b8@hokkshideh.dream-tech.com>; bh=/Zx+MpeF+9uur4viS/cHD7DJQlZiS0L84HQtlPPoi5o=; b=cyr9HTU1DcUaiVpBpDJzQxlDWIdOsCWkHNvNRQ5qnAbr3fFpUoXuHl4Q GYOiq5zXhX2FwG+UwSaVZkqSZDYLJfajxe57ndWdJHDHuwsn83KS6z9cB tJrlgnvrwKqaOeUMnJoiS3haOEO1yPsbvqTKFqqMNLhjNPo6ps5OKvV9t ueJBlx8AuhDLvrNbAET5L2MjVMbGZimKSW8WLk9b1Lz6E+cS8d+RfeLoI oC8at5E6CLvGkJK1ecogy2xca+8TSE7slLiFLdjhGR9DVwLEiNTR3QfoT jfyT6nBgOfUZ1uTuK+eqf1UaV+G0wKbyPvgrIWxZv0b1inoN1GXKoyih7 A==; Authentication-Results: d2.ironport.kipshouse.net; dkim=none (message not signed) header.i=none; spf=None smtp.pra=karly@kipshouse.org; spf=None smtp.mailfrom=karly@kipshouse.net; spf=None smtp.helo=postmaster@mailboy.kipshouse.net Received-SPF: None (d2.ironport.kipshouse.net: no sender authenticity information available from domain of karly@kipshouse.org) identity=pra; client-ip=2001:470:835a:1010::26; receiver=d2.ironport.kipshouse.net; envelope-from="karly@kipshouse.net"; x-sender="karly@kipshouse.org"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible Received-SPF: None (d2.ironport.kipshouse.net: no sender authenticity information available from domain of karly@kipshouse.net) identity=mailfrom; client-ip=2001:470:835a:1010::26; receiver=d2.ironport.kipshouse.net; envelope-from="karly@kipshouse.net"; x-sender="karly@kipshouse.net"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible Received-SPF: None (d2.ironport.kipshouse.net: no sender authenticity information available from domain of postmaster@mailboy.kipshouse.net) identity=helo; client-ip=2001:470:835a:1010::26; receiver=d2.ironport.kipshouse.net; envelope-from="karly@kipshouse.net"; x-sender="postmaster@mailboy.kipshouse.net"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible X-SBRS: None X-MID: 304385 X-RemoteIP: 2001:470:835a:1010::26 X-RemoteHost: 2001:470:835a:1010::26, mailboypriv.kipshouse.net X-IronPort-AV: E=McAfee;i="5900,7806,8986"; a="304385" Received: from mailboypriv.kipshouse.net (HELO mailboy.kipshouse.net) ([IPv6:2001:470:835a:1010::26]) by d2.ironport.kipshouse.net with ESMTP; 15 Aug 2018 14:08:14 -0700 Received: by mailboy.kipshouse.net (Postfix, from userid 500) id D3A4F45752; Wed, 15 Aug 2018 14:08:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2018 14:08:13 -0700 From: Karl Young To: Dave Hayes Cc: Alejandro Imass , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Hello... Message-ID: <20180815210813.GH13174@mailboy.kipshouse.net> References: <175f53e88fb5ebf26527882827080cd7@cannabis.fr.pl> <20180815182210.GA23701@sh4-5.1blu.de> <20180815120028.4e90ebf2@hokkshideh.dream-tech.com> <20180815140020.435ac9b8@hokkshideh.dream-tech.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20180815140020.435ac9b8@hokkshideh.dream-tech.com> X-Arbitrary-Number-Of-The-Day: 42 X-URL: http://www.kipshouse.org/karly X-Work-URL: http://www.cisco.com/ X-Disclaimer: My opinions do not necessarily represent those of my employer. User-Agent: Mutt/1.7.2 (2016-11-26) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2018 21:08:16 -0000 Dave Hayes(dave@jetcafe.org)@2018.08.15 14:00:20 -0700: > I have been trying to convince people that convincing people of > anything is futile...but somehow my efforts in this regard are not > working at all. ;) > I'm convinced. -karl