From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 10 03:44:10 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 152BF16A4CE for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 03:44:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from neptune.atopia.net (neptune.atopia.net [209.128.231.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D56F943D2D for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 03:44:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dcp1990@neptune.atopia.net) Received: by neptune.atopia.net (Postfix, from userid 1034) id 74F314285; Wed, 9 Feb 2005 22:44:09 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 22:44:09 -0500 From: Dan Ponte To: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20050210034409.GA15195@neptune.atopia.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.org References: <200502091349.00708.algould@datawok.com> <420ACD5E.3030708@pacific.net.sg> <20050209222850.0b94abad@mobile.pittgoth.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050209222850.0b94abad@mobile.pittgoth.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: Re: Logo Contest X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 03:44:10 -0000 On Wed, Feb 09, 2005 at 10:28:50PM -0500, Tom Rhodes was witnessed plotting the following conspiracy: > On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 10:56:31 +0800 > Erich Dollansky wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > this all sounds like a very stupid idea to me. > > Thanks! > > > > > This also sounds like the effort in the EU banning the swastika not > > seeing that some two billion people using it as a religious symbol. > > Your conspiracy is over there -------> I don't believe that is all that farfetched; indeed, Jun mentioned in his "announcement" (as it was seemingly leaked) that it may offend some, and I don't think that scottl's commit removing Beastie from the loader menu speaks against it, either. FreeBSD has a long history of tradition behind it; breaking said tradition in the name of political correctness can only hinder. > > > > I never ever heard that a company has chosen a product because of its logo. > > I have. Can I put my hand up and vote now? > > > > > Do you believe that Windows is this successful because of its logo? > > No. But the blue screens and hundreds of issues in the knowledge > base doesn't seem to hurt them much either. > > I hear all of this "Stupid idea because of this this" and "cry and > whine because of that" > > How does the *logo* (note, two dictionaries consider logo and > mascot different) being added hurt you? I mean, other than > somehow forcing you to take a few moments to craft an email; me > as well. > > This will also make it much easier to make clothing items which > can be sold to the general public, it also offers choice. So > many complain that MS limits choice, aren't we doing that now? > We still need Kirks permission IIRC, to print designs with > Beastie on them. Don't you think this may push advocacy, why > hinder that movement in any way? > > I think this is the last I'll say about the matter though. > -- Dan Ponte http://www.theamigan.net/ The debate rages on: Is PL/I Bachtrian or Dromedary?