From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 25 14:06:04 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA10031 for current-outgoing; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 14:06:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.64.181]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA10024 Mon, 25 Mar 1996 14:06:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.7.5/8.6.9) id OAA06919; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 14:05:32 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 14:05:32 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199603252205.OAA06919@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: jkh@time.cdrom.com CC: rgrimes@GndRsh.aac.dev.com, gibbs@freefall.freebsd.org, paul@netcraft.co.uk, joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, loodvrij@gridpoint.com In-reply-to: <27911.827775158@time.cdrom.com> (jkh@time.cdrom.com) Subject: Re: Patch to talkd From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk * Bleah. I'm going to stop committing these trivial changes - everyone * jumps all over them with far more enthusiasm than they ever exhibit * for the truly broken stuff, and it's more than a little annoying to * spend 3 days debating something minor only to have everyone go * completely silent when I try to get any help on something _majorly_ * hosed! :-( You don't sound like yourself, Jordan. I thought you already knew what a thankless job the "president" is! :> Anyway, people are jumping all over it is because it was NOT broken for some people (at least there was an easy work-around), and your commit moved the problem. Which made the default behavior (when you don't pay much attention to ordering of ttys) more desirable for others while the work-around went away. If you take away a behavior in the system that some people like, you can expect them to scream. :) Oh, and the reason why more people comment on this than the NFS locking -- maybe because it's easier to understand? Satoshi