From owner-freebsd-advocacy Tue May 15 11:11:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from smtp01.primenet.com (smtp01.primenet.com [206.165.6.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E61C537B424; Tue, 15 May 2001 11:11:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert@usr08.primenet.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp01.primenet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA19377; Tue, 15 May 2001 11:09:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from usr08.primenet.com(206.165.6.208) via SMTP by smtp01.primenet.com, id smtpdAAA1CaGGL; Tue May 15 11:09:22 2001 Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr08.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA28441; Tue, 15 May 2001 11:12:08 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <200105151812.LAA28441@usr08.primenet.com> Subject: Re: I'm leaving To: dougy@gargoyle.apana.org.au (Doug Young) Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 18:12:07 +0000 (GMT) Cc: djohnson@acuson.com (David Johnson), kris@obsecurity.org (Kris Kennaway), freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <020b01c0dcda$581e35d0$0300a8c0@oracle> from "Doug Young" at May 15, 2001 10:59:49 AM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > From my extremely limited (and somewhat unsatisfactory) experience > in> attempting to coerce X into a functional state, I see the problem > as more of a hardware rather than a software issue. Whilst there > isn't any question that making things more straightforward software > wise is a_very_good_thing, there does appear to be something > lacking in the videocard detection routing. Its been suggested by > some that this is is more of an XFree rather than a FreeBSD issue, > and although I can see the logic in this argument I'm certain that > many raw newbies would fail to understand the distinction. This is a FreeBSD issue. If FreeBSD were to go to GGI and KGI (most of the drivers and all of the interesting code is under the X license), then video modes for all supported cards, and INT 10 BIOS modes up through VESA2 would "just work". Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message