From owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 20 21:48:27 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 691D616A420 for ; Sat, 20 May 2006 21:48:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Received: from pooker.samsco.org (pooker.samsco.org [168.103.85.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7BFB43D46 for ; Sat, 20 May 2006 21:48:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Received: from [192.168.254.14] (imini.samsco.home [192.168.254.14]) (authenticated bits=0) by pooker.samsco.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k4KLmHqs082851; Sat, 20 May 2006 15:48:23 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Message-ID: <446F8E9A.804@samsco.org> Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 15:48:10 -0600 From: Scott Long User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.7.7) Gecko/20050416 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jason Arnaute References: <20060520203851.80730.qmail@web50909.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20060520203851.80730.qmail@web50909.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=3.8 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=failed version=3.1.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.1 (2006-03-10) on pooker.samsco.org Cc: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Stress testing the UFS2 filesystem X-BeenThere: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Filesystems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 21:48:27 -0000 Jason Arnaute wrote: > --- Scott Long wrote: > > >>Yes, you have a point that snapshots have been >>broken in >>the past. A lot of work has been done recently to >>fix >>them, as well as quotas. Your trollish digs only >>disrespect >>all the work being done, and they are not welcome >>here. > > > > If I were complaining about some new feature, some > advanced new addition to FreeBSD, then I would have no > place here. Setbacks and failures are part of any > project like this. No arguments there. > > But I am not complaining about some new feature, or > some cutting edge addition. I am complaining that a > bedrock function of the filesystem that has existed in > UNIX and UNIX-like OS's for _decades_ now no longer > functions in FreeBSD (quotas). I am complaining about > default functionality (snapshots) that was forced down > the throats of everyone (in the form of bg_fsck) over > two years ago that has _never worked_, and that 90% of > users have no idea of its presence or its > ramifications. > > Go ask Joe sysadmin who just installed FreeBSD 6.1 as > his companies mailserver if he realizes what will > happen if he BG fscks a filesystem that has been > filled to capacity. > > Oh, and yes, I do in fact have a patch for the quota > issues - it's called FreeBSD 4.x. > > This ridicule is _well deserved_. > # grep complain < rant.eml | wc -w 4 I think that your quota for complaining has been reached. Scott