From owner-svn-src-head@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 7 21:32:21 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-head@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFF301AB; Sat, 7 Sep 2013 21:32:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adrian.chadd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wg0-x235.google.com (mail-wg0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c00::235]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A0BA8266C; Sat, 7 Sep 2013 21:32:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wg0-f53.google.com with SMTP id x12so1715153wgg.20 for ; Sat, 07 Sep 2013 14:32:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=3Vxh2XCyj8WmeNk5Hh2FE60gFDwTA8J5TUcskvzNa5U=; b=qvMInrTpNHov6d69ea4weCJovYmw/cocgciW18Ms03jwBhUqIEcqmsw3hGOAbi4iNO Bn2+oGwVnonh27Sv1AwRK3fgBULoOYqd3tvQZQaHXXCmfo5OYd9DxA/s7dIqmqje6JKJ 0r7dfqMh6KDtTM6WkfjTBW6BGZE5qTIfLtdEDogpuYh71mT0TPRsYqTFaDn+4hjWuKHP zQSaDxDeHMWtmSYTawWtdGSrVQ+UBLxqAh8Y4VDDH4FIq02L2TAq8hPgQrNJcEVwYwZ3 wRa2+pDWs4m+PieYkg01Xy8Z2KcTFHeNBPl4Oebii//W1CQHW/TWsCOCB/v3NdrcZs7R bntQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.93.104 with SMTP id ct8mr3291395wib.0.1378589539065; Sat, 07 Sep 2013 14:32:19 -0700 (PDT) Sender: adrian.chadd@gmail.com Received: by 10.216.73.133 with HTTP; Sat, 7 Sep 2013 14:32:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20130907212957.GF3796@zxy.spb.ru> References: <201309062024.r86KOMqm059838@svn.freebsd.org> <20130907081743.GB95723@zxy.spb.ru> <20130907170700.GB3796@zxy.spb.ru> <20130907210244.GE3796@zxy.spb.ru> <20130907212957.GF3796@zxy.spb.ru> Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2013 14:32:19 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 1Ll_dsbm1g3r9xtI60wl6UXOHJo Message-ID: Subject: Re: svn commit: r255323 - in head/sys: amd64/conf i386/conf From: Adrian Chadd To: Slawa Olhovchenkov Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: "src-committers@freebsd.org" , Bryan Venteicher , "svn-src-all@freebsd.org" , "Andrey V. Elsukov" , "svn-src-head@freebsd.org" , Edward Tomasz Napiera?a X-BeenThere: svn-src-head@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the src tree for head/-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Sep 2013 21:32:22 -0000 On 7 September 2013 14:29, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote: > > I think we can aim to get this stuff snuck into -HEAD after 10 branches > > off. Sneaking it into -HEAD now would be way too risky. We can always MFC > > it later on to hit 10.1 or something. > > I think now -HEAD can't be more risky by one or two patches. Hah, the ol' "it's already broken, we can't possibly make it worse" argument. :-) It's ultimately up to re@ at this point, but personally I think adding a last minute patch to loader primarily for a feature that we'd also have to rush in as well is too risky. A lot has changed in -HEAD over the last few weeks and in my opinion we should let the dust settle and get people using the latest -HEAD before trying out even more new stuff. We can always back-port it to -10 (and -9 if people want) later on in the year. -adrian