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Date:      Tue, 22 Sep 2015 20:48:19 +0200
From:      Dimitry Andric <dim@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
Cc:        src-committers@freebsd.org, svn-src-projects@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r288121 - projects/clang370-import/contrib/libc++/src/support
Message-ID:  <9B0C3FE9-821B-470E-8AFC-F5B3DCE5B8F4@FreeBSD.org>
In-Reply-To: <00F42FF7-84D4-4C97-974F-C28DB36D4392@bsdimp.com>
References:  <201509221734.t8MHYp0W052286@repo.freebsd.org> <00F42FF7-84D4-4C97-974F-C28DB36D4392@bsdimp.com>

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On 22 Sep 2015, at 20:37, Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> wrote:
>=20
>> On Sep 22, 2015, at 11:34 AM, Dimitry Andric <dim@freebsd.org> wrote:
>> NOTE: this needs to be fixed properly later on, by supplying library
>> functions implementing atomic operations for arm < v6.  We should
>> probably take those from sys/arm/arm/stdatomic.c, and stuff them into
>> either libgcc or compiler-rt.
>=20
> I don=E2=80=99t think you can do that.
>=20
> arm < v6 is special. The CPUs don=E2=80=99t have atomic operations. In =
the kernel,
> we disable interrupts and do the op. You can=E2=80=99t do that in user =
land. Instead,
> you have to use RAS (Restartable Atomic Sequences) and have the kernel
> grok the RAS. Thankfully, the RAS support in the kernel is just the R =
in that.
> But it does mean that we=E2=80=99ll have some work to do this =
properly.
>=20
> I=E2=80=99m not entirely sure that your =E2=80=98fix=E2=80=99 makes =
things actually safe, even if it
> seems to make them work today. I=E2=80=99ll have to study it more =
closely.

Probably not 100% safe, since the stub functions are just placeholders
which aren't atomic at all.  Then again, if we insist on this being
correct, we will have no choice as to disable the atomic support in
libc++ somehow.  (I'm not sure if this is supported by upstream at all.)

As far as I understood on IRC, the functions in stdatomic.c should work
in userland, unless you are using real SMP?  (And does that even exist
for such old ARM architectures?)

-Dimitry


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