From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 01:00:43 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5506F16A41A for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 01:00:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from asmrookie@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF99113C448 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 01:00:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from asmrookie@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b2so933977nfb.33 for ; Wed, 06 Feb 2008 17:00:41 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; bh=A47Uzlr5w+3geNFR1JT+VmEw8eh24ejzk93ik7cQqcs=; b=XPZGm3pen+bzBFkBB0infwkNZXh1IwznrKfpsTqAL47ZTcBUgUIa7Ot+UPWcFRIoqdjBkXXe0Lm4IwZ1ml2kHsBPdggp1yYK9wpvHUL3WadOefCoVYpgGEVd2LqITWyihY5D1QXzjS24JixlRjfH/MkqrRpENx3lsxeCHBRgOI8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; b=uVzsTBmN6hZ+divyO3Yg7SeGVc/wBKMFtkersXhGALgqj+KqUf+jl2urysk3T1yUmN5RkvLfOGTFq1YW8BxSyOK+SKICMfFhMIlOLneQfzSsU+OlOVIO07n+4C/1RgTBFN4OjvAVdl/VpV+vZyQZYZm7TdtcO/iBjQR38AKY8rQ= Received: by 10.86.100.7 with SMTP id x7mr9799786fgb.10.1202346041497; Wed, 06 Feb 2008 17:00:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.86.28.19 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 17:00:41 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3bbf2fe10802061700p253e68b8s704deb3e5e4ad086@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 02:00:41 +0100 From: "Attilio Rao" Sender: asmrookie@gmail.com To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org, freebsd-fs@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Google-Sender-Auth: f21f19ae39864046 Cc: Scot Hetzel , Jeff Roberson , Doug Barton , Yar Tikhiy Subject: [RFC] Remove NTFS kernel support X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 01:00:43 -0000 As exposed by several users, NTFS seems to be broken even before first VFS commits happeing around the end of December. Those commits exposed some problems about NTFS which are currently under investigation. Ultimately, This filesystem is also unmaintained at the moment. Speaking with jeff, we agreed on what can be a possible compromise: remove the kernel support for NTFS and maybe take care of the FUSE implementation. What I now propose is a small survey which can shade a light on us about what do you think about this idea and its implications: - Do you use NTFS? - Are you interested in maintaining it? - Do you know a good reason to not use FUSE ntfs implementation? What the kernel counter part adds? - Do you think axing the kernel support a good idea? Thanks, Attilio -- Peace can only be achieved by understanding - A. Einstein