From owner-svn-src-all@freebsd.org Wed May 23 18:34:21 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-all@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70BA5EAD087; Wed, 23 May 2018 18:34:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eugen@grosbein.net) Received: from hz.grosbein.net (unknown [IPv6:2a01:4f8:d12:604::2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "hz.grosbein.net", Issuer "hz.grosbein.net" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E23997806B; Wed, 23 May 2018 18:34:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eugen@grosbein.net) Received: from eg.sd.rdtc.ru (root@eg.sd.rdtc.ru [62.231.161.221] (may be forged)) by hz.grosbein.net (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id w4NIYCet006964 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Wed, 23 May 2018 20:34:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from eugen@grosbein.net) X-Envelope-From: eugen@grosbein.net X-Envelope-To: rgrimes@freebsd.org Received: from [10.58.0.4] ([10.58.0.4]) by eg.sd.rdtc.ru (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id w4NIY5ru076701 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Thu, 24 May 2018 01:34:05 +0700 (+07) (envelope-from eugen@grosbein.net) Subject: Re: svn commit: r333388 - in head: . share/man/man4 sys/conf sys/dev/nxge sys/modules sys/modules/nxge tools/kerneldoc/subsys tools/tools tools/tools/nxge usr.sbin/bsdconfig/share To: rgrimes@freebsd.org, Mark Linimon References: <201805231814.w4NIExZ9036362@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> Cc: Gleb Smirnoff , Sean Bruno , svn-src-head@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, src-committers@freebsd.org From: Eugene Grosbein Message-ID: <5B05B419.2070709@grosbein.net> Date: Thu, 24 May 2018 01:34:01 +0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.7.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <201805231814.w4NIExZ9036362@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, LOCAL_FROM, RDNS_NONE, SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Report: * -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record * -2.3 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% * [score: 0.0000] * 2.6 LOCAL_FROM From my domains * 1.9 RDNS_NONE Delivered to internal network by a host with no rDNS X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on hz.grosbein.net X-BeenThere: svn-src-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: "SVN commit messages for the entire src tree \(except for " user" and " projects" \)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 May 2018 18:34:21 -0000 24.05.2018 1:14, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: >> On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 10:41:17AM -0700, Gleb Smirnoff wrote: >>> If end of sales and support is enough to remove 10g driver from the kernel, >>> can we please delete all 10Mbit, 100Mbit 10+ year old drivers from the kernel? >> >> Depends on how many existing users we want to screw over. Not everyone >> replaces all their hardware every 2 years, folks. > > And some of us buy 2 year old hardware because it is cheap, > and serves our needs just fine. Even 8 year old servers > make usable machines today. My home router runs 11.1-STABLE/i386 using PC-104 form factor system from the year 2007 having AMD Geode processor not capable of 64 bit mode, RAM maxed at 1GB (2x512MB DIMMs), UDMA100 IDE/PATA controller and two 100Mbit vr(4) vlan-capable network interfaces. It can route/nat PPPoE connection at 100M wire speed, performs IPSEC at 33Mbit/s using cryptodev/onboard AES accelerator while acting as WiFi access point same time using multi-AP capable AR5212 ath(4) miniPCI (not miniPCI-E) card. And I love FreeBSD for that.