From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 13 19:53:52 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ralf.artlogix.com (sense-mcglk-240.oz.net [216.39.168.240]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61A0637B403 for ; Thu, 13 Jun 2002 19:53:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ralf.artlogix.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E28311B9C2E; Thu, 13 Jun 2002 19:53:45 -0700 (PDT) To: Wayne Pascoe Cc: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Re: 4.6-RELEASE References: From: Ken McGlothlen Date: 13 Jun 2002 19:53:45 -0700 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <87vg8m605i.fsf@ralf.artlogix.com> Lines: 48 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Wayne Pascoe writes: | I think the patience comment was because in the last two days, there have | been at least 3 threads on this list asking when 4.6 will be out. That's understandable; it's days after the posted announcement. The website still refers to the 4.6 release taking place on the 8th at http://www.freebsd.org/releases/ and the 10th at http://www.freebsd.org/releng/ and http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.6R/schedule.html Not everyone reads -announce and -questions, y'know. What's more, when people see dates like that, and they're looking at a new install, they don't want to install the -RCx when the -RELEASE might come out very shortly indeed. In fact, I have a blank box staring at me right now from across the room waiting for a FreeBSD install, and I didn't feel like doing it today because hey, 4.6-RELEASE is supposed to be out RSN. I *could* run 4.5, but I don't want to install it only to find out that 4.6 came out the next day. At the very least, it might be worthwhile for someone to update the freebsd.org website to reflect the schedule slip, and give a new estimated date. We've had three estimated dates pass so far, is that correct? | The release team do a good job under loads of pressure. They would have more | time to do their work if they weren't responding to messages asking 'When | will it be done?'. If you want it done faster, chip in. Well, if you think a barrage of "can I help?" queries are going to speed up the process. . . . :) I'd just as soon leave 'em alone until 4.6 is out, send them gift certificates for, say, caffienated ice cream as thanks, and *then* bug 'em with "can I help?" messages. | Oh, and until you're paying money for a service or product, you're not a | customer. We are currently recipients of a benevolent foundation. Welllllll, technically, they *are* customers. But no, there's no trade transactions taking place, usually. The bottom line is that people can be quite patient if they're told what to expect. When they're kept in the dark, they get titchy. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message