From owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 25 11:16:47 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E08216A418 for ; Wed, 25 Jul 2007 11:16:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from simon@benji.nitro.dk) Received: from mx.nitro.dk (zarniwoop.nitro.dk [83.92.207.38]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31F4813C45E for ; Wed, 25 Jul 2007 11:16:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from simon@benji.nitro.dk) Received: from benji.nitro.dk (unknown [192.168.3.39]) by mx.nitro.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 887F52DE645; Wed, 25 Jul 2007 10:59:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by benji.nitro.dk (Postfix, from userid 2000) id 9B7C7FD58; Wed, 25 Jul 2007 12:59:30 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 12:59:30 +0200 From: "Simon L. Nielsen" To: "Julian H. Stacey" Message-ID: <20070725105930.GC1524@zaphod.nitro.dk> References: <20070725022141.GA17703@bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org> <200707242352.43948.ogautherot@vtr.net> <200707250931.l6P9VgeB088253@fire.js.berklix.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200707250931.l6P9VgeB088253@fire.js.berklix.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) Cc: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What's our standard "stripped-down FreeBSD" tool? X-BeenThere: freebsd-small@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Dedicated and Embedded Systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 11:16:47 -0000 On 2007.07.25 11:31:42 +0200, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > "How long is a piece of string" ;-) ie likely depends what size > flash drive is ! My impression (non user) is Freesbie aims CD size, > whereas Nano or Tiny aim [a lot] smaller ? > > man nanobsd: > doesnt quote a typical size but does have SEE ALSO picobsd > man picobsd: > "which typically fits on a small media such as a floppy disk" > "The biggest problem is determining what will fit on the floppies" > > Suggestion: run them, generate images & use send-pr to report approx > default sizes to be included in manuals so we know for future. Default sizes for nanobsd in default config is 2 x normal FreeBSD size + ~5MB, but of course you need to set the size of your flash. You can get it on to a 128MB flash with a config file which excludes stuff like toolchain etc. without much trouble. The interesting size really is with a config file like this. 64MB requires more work, but is possible. You can get PicoBSD down to a 1.4MB floppy with FreeBSD 4 at least.. I haven't tried for later FreeBSD versions since it's just too much pain getting it working compared to how cheap flash is today. -- Simon L. Nielsen