From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 2 18:15:41 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00D9337B401; Sat, 2 Aug 2003 18:15:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from puffin.mail.pas.earthlink.net (puffin.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.139]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F016343FDD; Sat, 2 Aug 2003 18:15:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert2@mindspring.com) Received: from user-38lc076.dialup.mindspring.com ([209.86.0.230] helo=mindspring.com) by puffin.mail.pas.earthlink.net with asmtp (SSLv3:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 3.33 #1) id 19j7TG-0006rc-00; Sat, 02 Aug 2003 18:15:39 -0700 Message-ID: <3F2C61FD.CB6733A8@mindspring.com> Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2003 18:14:37 -0700 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Greg 'groggy' Lehey , ticso@cicely.de, current@freebsd.org References: <1079.192.168.0.3.1059811884.squirrel@webmail.aminor.no> <20030802090052.GA25338@rot13.obsecurity.org> <2712203.1059843659@[192.168.0.2]> <1079.192.168.0.3.1059811884.squirrel@webmail.aminor.no> <20030802090052.GA25338@rot13.obsecurity.org> <20030802091620.GB6331@cicely12.cicely.de> <3F2C601C.4EDBB33C@mindspring.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ELNK-Trace: b1a02af9316fbb217a47c185c03b154d40683398e744b8a4d1d80b8a61627e3747c927571607eeb8a8438e0f32a48e08350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c Subject: Re: Yet another crash in FreeBSD 5.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2003 01:15:41 -0000 Terry Lambert wrote: > There's no reason to be paranoid about your baby with me; unlike > some people, personally I like Vinum, so relax and realize that > I'm not trying to blame your code by trying to help him squeeze > more information out of the data he *is* able to gather. To follow this up: Sometimes you have to work with the information you have available, rather than the information you wish you had available. in an earlier post, he said that he was having problems collecting system crash dumps. So what he has is pretty much what we get to work with. If you think that's fun, try translating a traceback that's a set of hexadecimal instruction addresses for a released product (at least you get the symbol'ed kernel to look at in gdb) from a blurry digital photograph of a computer monitor... -- Terry