From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 14 18:47:28 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5773C16A4CE; Thu, 14 Oct 2004 18:47:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from arginine.spc.org (arginine.spc.org [195.206.69.236]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0620E43D31; Thu, 14 Oct 2004 18:47:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bms@spc.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by arginine.spc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BF1665490; Thu, 14 Oct 2004 19:47:27 +0100 (BST) Received: from arginine.spc.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (arginine.spc.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 47554-01-3; Thu, 14 Oct 2004 19:47:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from empiric.dek.spc.org (adsl-67-121-95-134.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [67.121.95.134]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by arginine.spc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30AE765473; Thu, 14 Oct 2004 19:47:26 +0100 (BST) Received: by empiric.dek.spc.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 42ED06465; Thu, 14 Oct 2004 11:47:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 11:47:15 -0700 From: Bruce M Simpson To: Max Laier Message-ID: <20041014184715.GC665@empiric.icir.org> Mail-Followup-To: Max Laier , freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Ian FREISLICH , Robert Huff , Robert Watson , current@freebsd.org References: <200410141817.16391.max@love2party.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="xo44VMWPx7vlQ2+2" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200410141817.16391.max@love2party.net> cc: Robert Watson cc: Ian FREISLICH cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org cc: Robert Huff cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: network slowness/freez-up since update 10/11 X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 18:47:28 -0000 --xo44VMWPx7vlQ2+2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Oct 14, 2004 at 06:17:06PM +0200, Max Laier wrote: > Unless somebody else wants it, I'd be very happy to get hold of it in ord= er to=20 > try what Bruce suggested and/or clean up the de(4) driver. Shipping addre= ss=20 > to follow in private mail. Actually what I should have said was that de(4) is a mess, period. The code in de(4) deviates significantly from style(9). There's a lot of spaghetti in there for those who care to look. In my opinion, expecting committers to maintain it is unrealistic, unless they're familiar with the site local style in the driver files, or willing to become familiar. To the best of my knowledge, NetBSD's tlp(4) driver supports all of the target hardware that de(4) does, and is much closer to our coding style. This was my recommendation in private to various developers back in July shortly before I moved to Berkeley. Regards, BMS --xo44VMWPx7vlQ2+2 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: '' iD8DBQFBbsmyueUpAYYNtTsRAse0AKCEDd3WOyqMwwD7DuKUtTSIPegxTgCfXzjL ByAUNeqr6JNI84uzeY/ih4s= =+K4j -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --xo44VMWPx7vlQ2+2--