From owner-freebsd-chat Sun Sep 8 17:46: 5 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1279537B401; Sun, 8 Sep 2002 17:46:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from directvinternet.com (dsl-65-185-140-165.telocity.com [65.185.140.165]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3727943E77; Sun, 8 Sep 2002 17:46:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nwestfal@directvinternet.com) Received: from Tolstoy.home.lan (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by directvinternet.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g890k0Gd006349; Sun, 8 Sep 2002 17:46:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nwestfal@directvinternet.com) Received: from localhost (nwestfal@localhost) by Tolstoy.home.lan (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) with ESMTP id g890k0hq006346; Sun, 8 Sep 2002 17:46:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: Tolstoy.home.lan: nwestfal owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2002 17:46:00 -0700 (PDT) From: "Neal E. Westfall" X-X-Sender: nwestfal@Tolstoy.home.lan To: George Reid Cc: Terry Lambert , Juli Mallett , Joshua Lee , , Subject: Re: Why did evolution fail? In-Reply-To: <20020909013107.A1942@FreeBSD.org> Message-ID: <20020908174226.B80977-100000@Tolstoy.home.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 9 Sep 2002, George Reid wrote: > On Sun, Sep 08, 2002 at 04:56:52PM -0700, Neal E. Westfall wrote: > > > By the way, only Christianity can account for what you note above, > > that no religion give us a comprehensive understanding of God. The > > Christian doctrine of God's incomprehensibility takes this into > > account. > > Oh, come on. Islam, for one, also asserts the incomprehensibility of > Allah. f.e, Ta-Ha 20:110: "He knows their past and their future, while none > encompasses His knowledge." Islamic fiqh states that "his true nature > cannot be described by anyone nor can thinkers imagine that nature" and > "to know Him one considers His signs, but one does not think about His > essence." See also Dr. Samuel Zwemer's "The Moslem Doctrine of God". Actually the Islamic doctrine of mukhalafa says that it Allah is *so* different from his creatures that it is impossible to postulate anything about him at all. But then what is the Koran if not an attempt to do this? In addition, Islam falsifies itself, since the Koran recognizes the Torah and the Christian scriptures as true revelations from God, yet claims that Christ did not raise from the dead. The Koran contradicts itself. Neal To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message